COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[crazyg]

Happy 70th Mr:)

Thank you.

 

[fulabeer]

Do we think tomorrow will be THE day as far as deaths go?
We've had a long bank holiday weekend, and where as Tuesday is normally the high number day, tomorrow should be the day when the numbers catch up.
So if the figures are high, they are to be expected.
Or have they already added some of the weekend deaths?

I'm hoping that after tomorrow, things start to look a little better. I know there won't be a sudden downturn in numbers.
But it is time we should be seeing some effects of the restrictions. Fingers crossed that as the week goes on we do see some positive signs.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Why China? Why are they the country that the WHO look at and are they nearly always the cause for these epidemics? If the WHO are that concerned each May when the WHO get together they should just quarantine the whole fucking shithole and stop anything and everything coming out of there.

Judging by Trumpy's press conference tomight I think the WHO will be getting quarantined prety soon.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Sweden's numbers continue to outstrip their Scandinavian neighbours.

Although I understand there is no exit strategy at the moment, countries who have taken more serious action are doing better.

But will their economy be any where near as damaged as ours?

 

[grunge]

Why China? Why are they the country that the WHO look at and are they nearly always the cause for these epidemics? If the WHO are that concerned each May when the WHO get together they should just quarantine the whole fucking shithole and stop anything and everything coming out of there.

Which epidemics are you referencing specifically? A few have come out of China there is no denying it but it’s far from fair to say most come from there.

 

[lancs blue]

I’ve asked twice and barely been on this thread/ forum today/ other days. I’m just genuinely concerned and worried about the numbers and why it’s so low.

my grandma lives in a care home. So yes I have concern about that. Is that alright with you or is it ‘trolling’ to ask.

The information isn’t clearly online as you say either, if it was the chancellor wouldnt have been asked numerous times about it today

It is online but it takes a bit of digging out. For the weeks up to 3rd April it's the top link on this page (England & Wales only).Once opened, you need to scroll along the tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet to find "Covid19 - place of occurrence" for a breakdown.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...nalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

Also on Thursday 16th they're releasing a new spreadsheet with a more detailed analysis of covid19 deaths, it will appear on the page linked below.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/releases/analysisofdeathsinvolvingcovid19

 

[grunge]

But will their economy be any where near as damaged as ours?

really can’t compare the 2 countries.

Sweden by its very nature is social distancing. 25 people per square Km to our 273 ( way over 4000 in London )

Touching in public isn’t a done thing as well.

A lot of swedes are self isolating anyways.

and If I have been informed correctly young swedes leave the nest early so yet more social distancing by default.

 

[grunge]

Judging by Trumpy's press conference tomight I think the WHO will be getting quarantined prety soon.

China will probably fill the gap financially.

I’m already seeing lots of people talking about this being the defining moment future historians will reference for China overtaking the USA on being THE world leader.

 

[johnmc]

and If I have been informed correctly young swedes leave the nest early so yet more social distancing by default.

You list this as a positive. In my opinion 18 year olds having their own place would lead to more social interaction than not. In this country anyway.

 

[ganganvince]

Why are they not including the number of people of people who have died in care homes? Or outside of hospital?

Because the international standard for comparison is hospital deaths, the number of total deaths is available from the office for national statistics but this is not broken down into sectors there is a plan to break these numbers down in the future but not yet. Hope this helps.

 

[Vic]

Stupidest idea of the year.

Release sky lanterns for the NHS.

Apart from the dangers (fires, wildlife) how would making them be "essential work"?

 

[Vic]

Apart from Trump pulling the plug on funding WHO....

 

[lancs blue]

Because the international standard for comparison is hospital deaths, the number of total deaths is available from the office for national statistics but this is not broken down into sectors there is a plan to break these numbers down in the future but not yet. Hope this helps.

The numbers are broken down on a weekly basis on the ONS site, see my post on the previous page.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Stupidest idea of the year.

Release sky lanterns for the NHS.

Apart from the dangers (fires, wildlife) how would making them be "essential work"?

It'll never get off the ground.

 

[BlueAnorak]

China will probably fill the gap financially.

I’m already seeing lots of people talking about this being the defining moment future historians will reference for China overtaking the USA on being THE world leader.

Yes, winning WW3 without firing a shot.
It will; however, cause a lot of resentment and the death toll in some places, like India, is going to be horrific.
I was watching a story on the ever so ineffective lock downs in low income countries on the BBC news channel last night and it was frightening.

 

[BlueAnorak]

In other news, it is reported from Thialand and the European CDPC (Centre for Disease Provention and Control) that you can contract the disease from corpses of those who have died.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...-warn-risk-coronavirus-infection-dead-bodies/

This news will go down a storm in Indonesia and Egypt where the burying of the dead has led to riots with communities not wanting corpses buried in their local graveyards. But you can't win as in Sri Lanka the Muslim community is objecting to the compulsory cremation of the dead.
Perhaps telling people that you can get it from the faeces of the infected is also a bad idea?
The coming months are going to be horrific.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Stupidest idea of the year.

Release sky lanterns for the NHS.

Apart from the dangers (fires, wildlife) how would making them be "essential work"?

One of these nearly set an old neighbour’s house on fire when he released one and it got stuck on his Sky dish and set that and the wooden outer architrave whatsernameit on fire.

These things also set fire to hedgerows and even recycling plants:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....jul/01/smethwick-fire-chinese-lanterns-banned

Farmers’ fields:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-14661097

Animals:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ing-chinese-lanterns-star-horse-set-fire/amp/

They are fucking well dangerous!

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

In other news, it is reported from Thialand and the European CDPC (Centre for Disease Provention and Control) that you can contract the disease from corpses of those who have died.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...-warn-risk-coronavirus-infection-dead-bodies/

This news will go down a storm in Indonesia and Egypt where the burying of the dead has led to riots with communities not wanting corpses buried in their local graveyards. But you can't win as in Sri Lanka the Muslim community is objecting to the compulsory cremation of the dead.
Perhaps telling people that you can get it from the faeces of the infected is also a bad idea?
The coming months are going to be horrific.

They're double bagging bodies of those that have succumbed to it here. Not to be opened again. This will most likely be having a great affect on families that have traditionally had an open casket.

 

[Phil1]

One of these nearly set an old neighbour’s house on fire when he released on and it got stuck on his Sky dish and set that and the wooden outer architrave whatsernameit on fire.

These things also set fire to hedgerows and even recycling plants:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....jul/01/smethwick-fire-chinese-lanterns-banned

Farmers’ fields:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-14661097

Animals:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ing-chinese-lanterns-star-horse-set-fire/amp/

They are fucking well dangerous!

They are dangerous. I banned them from my hotel. Wedding parties used to love them but my place was in the middle of the countryside and the potential for damage was way too high to take the risk.
Plus, the cunts would be all outside for an hour oohing and ahhhing as they floated off meaning they’d stopped spending behind the bar...

 

[blueparrot]

really can’t compare the 2 countries.

Sweden by its very nature is social distancing. 25 people per square Km to our 273 ( way over 4000 in London )

Touching in public isn’t a done thing as well.

A lot of swedes are self isolating anyways.

and If I have been informed correctly young swedes leave the nest early so yet more social distancing by default.

Some big differences within the UK too as you say 4000 in London then just 8 in the highlands. The issue will come when we need different restrictions in different areas. If for instance they relax in the highlands will that open the floodgates of people thinking it’s okay to go there.