COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Marvin]

The graph of death at the end of the briefings is very obviously Total Deaths per country but it loses a bit of meaning given the USA and Germany's population. I can imagine half the country thinking the UK is doing pretty average. The UK has comparable records to Spain and Italy but these countries are the worst affected in the world.

 

[super_city_si]

As “a near perfect killing machine” it’s fucking wank.

It doesn’t even have acid for blood.

 

[SebastianBlue]

As “a near perfect killing machine” it’s fucking wank.

It’s the wrong framing, anyway.

It’s more a “highly effective collective suffering machine”, unfortunately.

 

[SebastianBlue]

It doesn’t even have acid for blood.

Ridley Scott likes this.

 

[BlueAnorak]

As “a near perfect killing machine” it’s fucking wank.

It's certainly a near perfect spreading machine being able to spread from it's host before symptoms begin and with many asymptomatic hosts who can spread it.

 

[SWP's back]

It's certainly a near perfect spreading machine being able to spread from it's host before symptoms begin and with many asymptomatic hosts who can spread it.

Yeah, on that count it’s pretty good.

 

[SWP's back]

currently below Spain, Italy, Belgium and France among major European countries.

It’s like the fucking euros.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Like a stutter

Reminds me of a joke my great uncle used to tell:

What is Hugh Grant's favourite drink?

Horlicks.

But I digress.

 

[Claytop]

It’s like the fucking euros.

Ffs Sterling.




Sorry, been a while.

 

[kaz7]

currently below Spain, Italy, Belgium and France among major European countries.

we are three weeks behind italy and yet are wedded to their line exactly

 

[BlueAnorak]

Yeah, on that count it’s pretty good.

Killing the host does not aid a virus's progression in the natural selection stakes. Though jumping species does.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

Apart from the very low mortality rate, absolutely.

To be fair the best virus they could have created would of been one to keep the vast majority of their consumer base intact whilst causing short/mid term political/economic trauma to its main rival. China then takes the U.S on the chicane on the global stage ... not sure you can model that into a virus in a lab in China though.

 

[SB Blue]

FFS get a grip. What do you want to call them, fat fucks, tubbies, rotund twats.

Overweight, obese, you know the medical terms for people with a BMI above 25.

I haven’t lost my grip, I’m not the one swearing.

 

[BlueAnorak]

currently below Spain, Italy, Belgium and France among major European countries.

we are three weeks behind italy and yet are wedded to their line exactly

Kind of depends where you start the line at10, 20, 50 or 100 deaths. The more deaths you chose the lower the UK is compared with Italy.
BTW Italy, like England, has yet to count deaths outside hospitals.

 

[SWP's back]

Killing the host does not aid a virus's progression in the natural selection stakes. Though jumping species does.

Of this I’m fully aware, hence me calling it wank in terms of being a perfect killing machine.

 

[Fame Monster]

Good news that the big increase a lot were expecting from the Easter BH hasn't arrived.

Hopefully we've seen the worst of it now and next time we loosen the restrictions, people take it more seriously and the NHS and labs are better equipped so that the spread is a lot slower.

 

[SWP's back]

Kind of depends where you start the line at10, 20, 50 or 100 deaths. The more deaths you chose the lower the UK is compared with Italy.
BTW Italy, like England, has yet to count deaths outside hospitals.

England very much IS counting deaths outside of hospital and I’ve no idea why you’d think they aren’t.

 

[Claytop]

‘Dr Jenny Harries is then asked why the figure of deaths in the UK is higher than in many other countries.

She says there is a "difficulty understanding the differentiation".

While Germany stands out now, Dr Harries adds: "We need to be very clear and need to look back in 12 or 20 months' time" to get the full picture.

She says the media has focused on counting deaths in the UK but the "most useful statistic" is comparing the number of deaths in the same season in previous years to the death toll during the coronavirus outbreak.

"It is difficult to draw direct comparisons with other countries," she adds. "That is not an excuse but a fact."



I think the above quite an important point, there’s so many different factors at play for each country that simply comparing numbers is pretty basic & potentially misleading.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

I don't see the logic behind loosening the restrictions (from a health POV rather than an economic one). Surely if people go back the normal, the virus will just start spreading again?

 

[BlueAnorak]

MERS is a perfect killing machine, but as it wipes out the host population it is an evolutionary dead end.
SARS is a bit better but it still kills too many hosts and becomes symptomatic too quickly.