COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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lancs blue said:
Well when my mum died in hospital me and my sister went to the hospital's bereavement office later the same day - they had the signed medical certificates ready and the death certificates were produced while we waited. We were fortunate in the sense that there isn't always someone available on-site who is qualified to produce the death certificates but it can be done the same day.
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Key words being “in hospital” fella. Doesn’t work like that outside of one. Need two GP’s as I said.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Public transport is unusable till they do something. Possibly working in an office is untenable too. They simply just kick start the next wave.
The lack of common sence with our scientific experts is simply breathtaking.
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Is it because they would lose credibility by recommending something they said was useless.
I for one have to admit that is what i believed a month ago, because that is what i was told.
Thank you from me for your input on this, concise logical arguments and plain English explanations.
 
BlueAnorak said:
The difference between the yellow line and the red line indicates that it takes on average 5 days to register a death. Holy shit who'd have thought that was remotely possible.
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BlueAnorak said:
I wasn't being flippant, well I guess I was, but I certainly didn't intend to do that down. Its tragic and I had to register the death of my wife in the 2nd week of January so I know how horrible it is.
My point was that that graph mearly shows the standard delay between a death occurring and it being registered.
So a complete and utter waste of time.
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SWP's back said:
Not sure if you’re being serious here or not?

Have you never been through the process yourself?
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Yes. See above.
I was being flippant about the pointless nature of a graph posted by ONS which merely showed it took a number of days to register a death.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
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Shows shutting the schools also had a big impact.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Public transport is unusable till they do something. Possibly working in an office is untenable too. They simply just kick start the next wave.
The lack of common sence with our scientific experts is simply breathtaking.
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Are there enough face masks to go around? If not, what happens if they recommend them for the general public? That would be my concern.
 
hgblue said:
Are there enough face masks to go around? If not, what happens if they recommend them for the general public? That would be my concern.
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You don't need to wear a face mask.
A scarf, neckerchief or cravat over the nose and mouth will do the job.
No aerosol = Much reduced spread.
 
SWP's back said:
Shows shutting the schools also had a big impact.
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Sorry to be dim, but how does it show that? Schools were closed on 20th March.

Peak deaths was on 8th April. How do we deduce anything about school closures? A line pointing to a peak isn't doing it for me.
 
BlueAnorak said:
You don't need to wear a face mask.
A scarf, neckerchief or cravat over the nose and mouth will do the job.
No aerosol = Much reduced spread.
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I understand the theory and agree it would be beneficial. Just a bit concerned that it could lead to competition for precious ppe. As long as this is sorted in some way I’d be all for it.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Sorry to be dim, but how does it show that? Schools were closed on 20th March.

Peak deaths was on 8th April. How do we deduce anything about school closures? A line pointing to a peak isn't doing it for me.
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Because you would expect an impact on deaths 2 or 3 weeks after taking an action. We can see that.
 
Maybe this is why the guy from wellcome trust was saying we might not get a vaccine

Scientists in China have discovered more than 30 mutations of the new coronavirus, which they say may partly explain why it has been more deadly in certain parts of the world.Researchers from Zhejiang University said they had "direct evidence" that the virus "has acquired mutations capable of substantially changing its pathogenicity".

The study was written by a team including Professor Li Lanjuan, one of China's top scientists who was reportedly the first expert to propose a lockdown in Wuhan - where COVID-19 originated

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...n-30-strains-say-scientists-in-china-11976380
 
It's better to look on the BBC site where it shows a rolling seven day average for the deaths rather than looking at a day by day number. Looking at that chart it shows the curve is turning (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274) downwards and the number of new infections is slowing. Still a long way to go though and my guess is that even after this latest lockdown we will have another two or three weeks in lockdown which maybe a slight easing of restrictions. There will be no football played anytime soon involving English teams despite what UEFA think. Null and void is looking ever nearer
 
Eds said:
It's better to look on the BBC site where it shows a rolling seven day average for the deaths rather than looking at a day by day number. Looking at that chart it shows the curve is turning (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274) downwards and the number of new infections is slowing. Still a long way to go though and my guess is that even after this latest lockdown we will have another two or three weeks in lockdown which maybe a slight easing of restrictions. There will be no football played anytime soon involving English teams despite what UEFA think. Null and void is looking ever nearer
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Lockdown works and the stricter the better. Those pushing the Sweden model. Can we put that to bed please.

185 dead today. Compare Denmark 6, Norway 1.

If the US is going to return to business as usual they are in for a shock.
 
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