That advice is non sensical.https://assets.publishing.service.g...file/756738/SPI-M_modelling_summary_final.pdf
Specifically cited by the UK Gov't as informing their decision making. Obviously, it depends how important you consider a few more weeks or a few months to be but given what can be achieved in terms of procuring ventilators/PPE, ramping up testing, building hospitals, I'd rather have those few extra weeks than not if it means we're far better prepared at dealing with the virus.
Savages.Tell you one thing, it’s a “normal” day here in sunny Rammy, or as normal as it ever is before anyone makes a joke, lol.
I’ve been sat outside since 8 this morning, and it’s busy on the roads, loads of people out and about. Supermarkets heaving.
The IT guy is probably waiting for his line manager to tell him to press the go live button. ;)I see the government testing website crashed due to demand. Honestly, our health beauracracy is totally shit. I bet the IT guy who said: "...But we haven't done stress testing yet." gets the blame.
Nice thing of the day
Care home on the isle of wright
20 residents
Manager decides to lock it down
She asked for 8 other staff to join her and move in
One is sleeping in the boiler room
2 sleeping in tents in the garden
They get paid pretty much minimum wage
Amazing people
People are moaning at having to stay in with their family and all home comforts !
21,000 at the Manchester Arena to see them on that last Friday night as well!The South Wales spike can possibly be attributed to the ludicrous decision to go ahead with two sell out Stereophonics gigs that went ahead despite the rugby international being called off
you never said 6 months but you were clearly suggesting In your post it was ridiculous to ease the lockdown and we were doing it far too soon. We will be at about 2 months when it gets released (if it does)
most other countries have started releasing at that point (if not earlier) and countries that are held out as doing well like South Korea and japan never had enforced lockdowns.
there are no countries contemplating lockdowns for months and months and months.
I do agree with you though when lockdown is released the virus will not have disappeared and be there as there is no cure or vaccine and won’t be for sometime and Hancock’s we won’t release lockdown until there is NO risk of a second peak will come to bit him on his arse.
as for your they will be dragged back to work risking death, thank fuck nhs workers, supermarket workers the armed forces ,bus drivers, train drives, tube drivers, bin men and delivery drivers , the police and many many more who have carried on working throughout this don’t have the same fucking attitude as you.
Everything to do with viruses is about flattening the curve and delaying the peak of that smaller curve to allow governments, scientists and health+social care to be afforded time and expertise to be ready for the peak so that they have as much in place as possible and can cope with the demand. And also so the economy isn’t held in limbo for too long because large spikes with longer peak plateaus mean that lockdowns have to last longer.https://assets.publishing.service.g...file/756738/SPI-M_modelling_summary_final.pdf
Specifically cited by the UK Gov't as informing their decision making. Obviously, it depends how important you consider a few more weeks or a few months to be but given what can be achieved in terms of procuring ventilators/PPE, ramping up testing, building hospitals, I'd rather have those few extra weeks than not if it means we're far better prepared at dealing with the virus.
I took my mam to hospital appointment this morning and here in Crook, Co Durham I think there could possible be a festival on of some sort. Town center packedTell you one thing, it’s a “normal” day here in sunny Rammy, or as normal as it ever is before anyone makes a joke, lol.
I’ve been sat outside since 8 this morning, and it’s busy on the roads, loads of people out and about. Supermarkets heaving.
as for your they will be dragged back to work risking death, thank fuck nhs workers, supermarket workers the armed forces ,bus drivers, train drives, tube drivers, bin men and delivery drivers , the police and many many more who have carried on working throughout this don’t have the same fucking attitude as you.
We will never know i guess,i am in awe of the lengths our frontline workers are going to,they could easily just say i have to isolate and throw a sickie but instead they are going above and beyond whilst knowing they could diei wonder if others did the same there may of been more lifes saved?
There's an awful big difference between one month and 6 months. But you never asked, you just presumed and told me what I really thought. Given those comments from Hancock, many will be back at work from Monday now, well ahead of any rumoured mid-May easing up. That's a good 2/3 weeks too early IMO. Once again, I never said months and months and months so stop being unfair and putting words into my mouth. It isn't appreciated.
And that last paragraph is just you being incredibly unfair, and if im being honest, an absolute dickhead, for the sake of it to make a totally unrelated point, cheers. I never once said they wouldn't go to work. Once again - stop putting words into my mouth. It is incredibly disingenuous. I haven't done it to you, so don't do it to me. My point was that your suggestion of 'well they can just not go to work then' was an unrealistic one. People just can't do that. They don't have that choice. Still, they'll obviously go to work, like we all will when our bosses call us back. Like I would if I had an essential worker job, and like my parents would.
That doesn't mean there's anything wrong fearing for your loved ones, does it? The two are totally unrelated. Do you think all the key workers aren't scared too? Do you think an awful lot of them wouldn't choose to be at home safe with their family if there was a way they could be? I guarantee most want nothing more to be safe. They're tough fuckers though so fair fucks, but they haven't got a choice either way. It's not fair to act like a lot of them aren't all scared too, it's unfair on them. It dehumanises them. I 100% appreciate them, and would do the exact same in their circumstances, as would my family. That doesn't change my point though that its just more than a little sad that people are having to choose between paying their bills and their health. That's truly awful.
I accept there's an element of 'well that's life, deal with it'. It is, but where possible I feel we should shield people as much as possible, and vague phrases like Hancock's will send back loads of people to work (probably from Monday) that simply don't need to be right now, thus then putting all the nurses and key workers in more danger as cases rise again quickly and the circle goes on. Personally, and I'm more than entitled to this opinion - that I don't think that's a good thing. Messaging like this shouldn't be vague until we've hit those five targets they keep mentioning, 'in my opinion' of course.
Yep, time to man up and get your arses back out to work.Are you suggesting someone does not have the right attitude if 'they do not just get on with it' during this pandemic?
We should be grateful to those who have duch risks to carry out their jobs but if someone is reluctant to go back to work, that is their choice. It's not for us to question their attitude.
Caveat: I honestly don't know when the lockdown should end or how it needs to be phased.
you literally said in support of your argument for longer lockdown to protect YOUR family and relatives ( your original point) , which I said there are far more risks for a longer lockdown and I listed them for you why it’s not so simple and other people are having difficulties and there has to be a broader view
you then said people are faced with a choice once lockdown ended stay home and get sacked or
“or go back to work and risk death. “ your exact words
yet you are happy for others who have worked throughout this crisis., including workers working on Covid wards . It’s a pathetic attitude . Pathetic and I am more than happy to be a dickhead to point that out to you.
hope your fridge and cupboards are full of food and your bins emptied so long as you are alright eh jack.
You’ve quoted the the wrong post mate
I likened it to what I’d class as any normal Saturday out there today.I took my mam to hospital appointment this morning and here in Crook, Co Durham I think there could possible be a festival on of some sort. Town center packed
Good, so it wouldn't save any lives but it may have delayed the peak. When do you suggest would have been the right time for this?
Yep, time to man up and get your arses back out to work.