UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[salfordbluetrue]

IIRC, YAYA was away at African cup for January. Maybe something to do with it.

Yaya being away certainly gave us the wobbles, but we were still well clear at the end of January

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Love the caveat in the latest UEFA proposals, to the effect that they can veto clubs if there is a “public perception of unfairness” in a team being nominated for next season’s CL on the basis of the points they have accrued domestically per game this season. In other words, if City’s CAS hearing doesn’t take place before next season starts and City can therefore qualify for the CL on the basis of being in 2nd place in the PL at the point of truncation this season, UEFA can still arbitrarily veto our participation in the event that the dippers, the rags and their media stooges kick up a stink....which of course they will.
They (UEFA) really are a bunch of utterly bent cnuts

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...uefa-statement-champions-league-news-18137185

 

[salfordbluetrue]

So if any club crosses United or Liverpool they get relegated, so if that's true you would had thought qpr, Fulham & Aston villa would kick up a fuss and they must have some proof.

Liverpool have only been SKY`s premiership market leaders for a couple of seasons, before that utd were,so it is not a case of crossing utd or liverpool it is a case of crossing SKY who own the FA, as for proof Arsenal fans proved manipulation years ago, but if you still want some the FA changed the laws concerning off sides a week ago the arm pit is no longer off side, which club wrongly complained and now has got a law change

 

[M18CTID]

Love the caveat in the latest UEFA proposals, to the effect that they can veto clubs if there is a “public perception of unfairness” in a team being nominated for next season’s CL on the basis of the points they have accrued domestically per game this season. In other words, if City’s CAS hearing doesn’t take place before next season starts and City can therefore qualify for the CL on the basis of being in 2nd place in the PL at the point of truncation this season, UEFA can still arbitrarily veto our participation in the event that the dippers, the rags and their media stooges kick up a stink....which of course they will.
They (UEFA) really are a bunch of utterly bent cnuts

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...uefa-statement-champions-league-news-18137185

I wouldn't get too hung up about it. There's a chance next season might not even take place anyway, and if it does it'll probably be behind closed doors which would be a fucking farce and of no interest to most match-going fans.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I wouldn't get too hung up about it. There's a chance next season might not even take place anyway, and if it does it'll probably be behind closed doors which would be a fucking farce and of no interest to most match-going fans.

You are probably right, but ExeterBlue is absolutely correct about the shameless workings of the fuckers at UEFA and their determined intent on keeping their cabal cosy and protected.

 

[Newman Noggs]

Love the caveat in the latest UEFA proposals, to the effect that they can veto clubs if there is a “public perception of unfairness” in a team being nominated for next season’s CL on the basis of the points they have accrued domestically per game this season. In other words, if City’s CAS hearing doesn’t take place before next season starts and City can therefore qualify for the CL on the basis of being in 2nd place in the PL at the point of truncation this season, UEFA can still arbitrarily veto our participation in the event that the dippers, the rags and their media stooges kick up a stink....which of course they will.
They (UEFA) really are a bunch of utterly bent cnuts

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...uefa-statement-champions-league-news-18137185

That clause is beautifully tacked on at the end, almost as though someone just thought of it. Bet they all had a good belly laugh and trebles all round. I wonder how they intend to measure "public perception" and, of course, once introduced, there is precedent to apply it in normal circumstances.

We ain't getting in the CL any time soon.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Liverpool have only been SKY`s premiership market leaders for a couple of seasons, before that utd were,so it is not a case of crossing utd or liverpool it is a case of crossing SKY who own the FA, as for proof Arsenal fans proved manipulation years ago, but if you still want some the FA changed the laws concerning off sides a week ago the arm pit is no longer off side, which club wrongly complained and now has got a law change

I wouldn't say market leaders... More like flagship teams that sell the product.

I would love someone to report just how much more the PL product sells when utd/ars/lfc win the titles.

For example, I was talking to a guy in Nigeria (YouTube live chat) and he was saying he doesn't get to see Utd anymore, that's because the national TV company didn't renew the TV rights, and that's because utd aren't doing well... He can't get to see his club anymore.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

I wouldn't say market leaders... More like flagship teams that sell the product.

I would love someone to report just how much more the PL product sells when utd/ars/lfc win the titles.

For example, I was talking to a guy in Nigeria (YouTube live chat) and he was saying he doesn't get to see Utd anymore, that's because the national TV company didn't renew the TV rights, and that's because utd aren't doing well... He can't get to see his club anymore.

Not quite the same thing but it does tell us how the FA look at the sport football, was the reply by Masters when asked by City what his thoughts were on Scudamore`s comments to City`s record win.
It is going to hilarious asking him how that equates to non Sky supported leagues this year

 

[red 2 hats]

Love the caveat in the latest UEFA proposals, to the effect that they can veto clubs if there is a “public perception of unfairness” in a team being nominated for next season’s CL on the basis of the points they have accrued domestically per game this season. In other words, if City’s CAS hearing doesn’t take place before next season starts and City can therefore qualify for the CL on the basis of being in 2nd place in the PL at the point of truncation this season, UEFA can still arbitrarily veto our participation in the event that the dippers, the rags and their media stooges kick up a stink....which of course they will.
They (UEFA) really are a bunch of utterly bent cnuts

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...uefa-statement-champions-league-news-18137185

The caveat says all you need to know about uefa and the cartel, corrupt to the core, what the cartel wants the cartel gets, and they don't want us anywhere near there competition.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

I wouldn't get too hung up about it. There's a chance next season might not even take place anyway, and if it does it'll probably be behind closed doors which would be a fucking farce and of no interest to most match-going fans.

I know. I was more just highlighting the fact that they always build a subjective (or open to interpretation) clause into all their rules and processes, to enable them to do whatever they want regardless of what the main body of legislation would appear to permit.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Courts have to fair and unbiased and i believe the swiss courts have overturned UEFA and CAS rulings

I would be surprised if there was enough for a Swiss court to suspend any sanction before it went into effect.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

That clause is beautifully tacked on at the end, almost as though someone just thought of it. Bet they all had a good belly laugh and trebles all round. I wonder how they intend to measure "public perception" and, of course, once introduced, there is precedent to apply it in normal circumstances.

We ain't getting in the CL any time soon.

I know. Even if we do get a clean bill of health at CAS, which I doubt anyway (I have no faith in the process whatsoever, and they will be under intense pressure to uphold our ban), they’ll either invent some other rule to exclude us, or the cartel will set up their own competition. I just hope that at some point we ruin some of these twats financially

 

[Grassland Blue]

One question.
How can it be that whilst fully complying with P.L.FFP, why is it that we are allegedly in breach of U.E.F.A. FFP.
(Please don't say "because it's bent")

 

[asahartford1]

I know. I was more just highlighting the fact that they always build a subjective (or open to interpretation) clause into all their rules and processes, to enable them to do whatever they want regardless of what the main body of legislation would appear to permit.

I hadn't seen it. I thought it was great that you brought it to our attention. I really cannot get my tiny mind around the absurdity of it.
If ever a statement if acted upon was open to legal challenge that would be it.

Surely an open goal.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

One question.
How can it be that whilst fully complying with P.L.FFP, why is it that we are allegedly in breach of U.E.F.A. FFP.
(Please don't say "because it's bent")

They're not the same rules.

The charge here is that City misrepresented the source of the money, not that they breached the financial figures.

 

[chedinho]

I like your memory recalling the Everton one, because I can't think what it was off the top of my head. I have to think hard to recall every VAR call on City. I put them in categories of: Just about bent, baffle and waffle bent and really bent and to complete the circle, just bent.

The baffle and waffle bent are the really frustrating ones.
They are the ones that are killing the game.
This is where the media get most clicks from and kick the arse right out of it.

 

[mac]

Love the caveat in the latest UEFA proposals, to the effect that they can veto clubs if there is a “public perception of unfairness” in a team being nominated for next season’s CL on the basis of the points they have accrued domestically per game this season. In other words, if City’s CAS hearing doesn’t take place before next season starts and City can therefore qualify for the CL on the basis of being in 2nd place in the PL at the point of truncation this season, UEFA can still arbitrarily veto our participation in the event that the dippers, the rags and their media stooges kick up a stink....which of course they will.
They (UEFA) really are a bunch of utterly bent cnuts

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...uefa-statement-champions-league-news-18137185

Well if that's the case and the rags get our place then Sheffield United should kick up a fuss as they have a game in hand. Fucking corrupt red shirt arse licking felchers.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Uefa and their acolytes are in no financial position to veto our participation in next season's Champions League, subject to a delay by CAS.

You don't gamble with money you don't have - especially so when it is money which would bankrupt you if a ruling is in our favour.

The more collusion there is, the safer ground City are on - protectionism and vested interests are arguments we continue to evidence.

Incidentally, imagine my surprise to learn David Gill was part of the two-man delegation which spoke to Uefa this week...

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Uefa and their acolytes are in no financial position to veto our participation in next season's Champions League, subject to a delay by CAS.

You don't gamble with money you don't have - especially so when it is money which would bankrupt you if a ruling is in our favour.

The more collusion there is, the safer ground City are on - protectionism and vested interests are arguments we continue to evidence.

Incidentally, imagine my surprise to learn David Gill was part of the two-man delegation which spoke to Uefa this week...

What two man delegation, Tolm?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Love the caveat in the latest UEFA proposals, to the effect that they can veto clubs if there is a “public perception of unfairness” in a team being nominated for next season’s CL on the basis of the points they have accrued domestically per game this season. In other words, if City’s CAS hearing doesn’t take place before next season starts and City can therefore qualify for the CL on the basis of being in 2nd place in the PL at the point of truncation this season, UEFA can still arbitrarily veto our participation in the event that the dippers, the rags and their media stooges kick up a stink....which of course they will.
They (UEFA) really are a bunch of utterly bent cnuts

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...uefa-statement-champions-league-news-18137185

Would have thought that City's legal team will have a field day with that clause!