COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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somapop said:
I know they’re saying it’s still possible to catch the virus through airborne particles when wearing a mask (standard issue) but harder to pass on from the wearer, but what about Hepa filter inserts? A Henry vacuum cleaner has hepa filter replacements (although these last ages).
Possible for masks (bearing in mind there’ll be an avalanche of designed/branded masks coming v soon)?
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Using a hepa mask to stop covid 19 is like using a tennis racket as an umbrella.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
Is the concensus that this is man made? Reading about the Wuhan virology lab and the tests they were doing and how 5 eyes have identified that a Dr. there was patient zero. If true I hope the international community bury China once and for all.
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No it isn’t by any other than barking mad twitter addicts.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
No it isn’t by any other than barking mad twitter addicts.
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Given the outcry over the Salisbury poisoning where our Government accused Russia quite openly what makes people think we wouldn't do the same now.
The deafening silence, apart from the nutter in the White House, suggests the international community do not believe that the virus originated inside a lab.
 
nimrod said:
Lockdown over here today thank fuck. We can have picnics and travel 50 kilometres. Visit family etcetera.
New Zealand have eliminated it.
Rugby team traveling here from New Zealand tomorrow.
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Lock down ended today in Tameside as well, not officially but fuck me the amount of traffic and people out there is ridiculous.

If this is what happens when Boris announces we are over the peak then god help us when he starts to lift the restrictions.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Still a lot of deaths.

I am really not seeing this downward trend they are talking about.
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The way the figures are being presented has changed so to compare like for like you have to look at hospital deaths. They are clearly going down, even though there is a lag before they are reported. Numbers in hospital and the number of them in ICUs also going down.
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
The way the figures are being presented has changed so to compare like for like you have to look at hospital deaths. They are clearly going down, even though there is a lag before they are reported. Numbers in hospital and the number of them in ICUs also going down.
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Yes, but extra deaths have also been added onto the worldometer graphs too so you can see a steady decline there too, as well as the 7 day rolling graphs.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
The way the figures are being presented has changed so to compare like for like you have to look at hospital deaths. They are clearly going down, even though there is a lag before they are reported. Numbers in hospital and the number of them in ICUs also going down.
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they really need to be clearer about these trends as it’s all over the show, you cannot follow the trends unless you are some statistician

there are going to be more actual cases if you do lots more tests.

there are going to be more deaths if you change the death methodology.

I would like a graph showing new cases as a percentage of tests so we can see the trend downwards.

I am following the number of people in hospital with Covid as my benchmark.
 
Blue Potato said:
Regardless of how the home tests are counted, the government promised to test 100k people per day by the end of the month - yesterday they tested 73k people. Therefore they missed the target of 100k.

However setting a target does seem to have focused attention towards the numbers being tested. There has been a huge increase in capacity in recent days, let’s hope this trend continues
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They did 120k yesterday and therefore hit the target.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
they really need to be clearer about these trends as it’s all over the show, you cannot follow the trends unless you are some statistician

there are going to be more actual cases if you do lots more tests.

there are going to be more deaths if you change the death methodology.

I would like a graph showing new cases as a percentage of tests so we can see the trend downwards.

I am following the number of people in hospital with Covid as my benchmark.
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It's a constantly changing methodology. Take the number of new cases for example. You will get more positive results if you test more but as the number of daily tests has shot up in the last week or so it is very encouraging that only just over 4000 positive cases were found yesterday.
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
It's a constantly changing methodology. Take the number of new cases for example. You will get more positive results if you test more but as the number of daily tests has shot up in the last week or so it is very encouraging that only just over 4000 positive cases were found yesterday.
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Only 2 constants and therefore reliable figures are the number admitted to hospital and the number in ICU the way you count these has remained stable.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
they really need to be clearer about these trends as it’s all over the show, you cannot follow the trends unless you are some statistician

there are going to be more actual cases if you do lots more tests.

there are going to be more deaths if you change the death methodology.

I would like a graph showing new cases as a percentage of tests so we can see the trend downwards.

I am following the number of people in hospital with Covid as my benchmark.
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That and ICU are probably the main two, particularly the ICU. I suspect, based on nothing at all, now the pressure is off hospitals a bit we could be hospitalising people earlier than at the start when capacity was a worry and treating them earlier with less severe symptoms, that intervention early could be preventing as much deterioration and be whats reducing the ICU requirement so much. As I say though thats just me speculating.
 
Update on my situation.
Posted that I tested positive on Tuesday, had a couple of days of temperature fluctuations ( the chills were the worst). Felt really tired and slept a lot, not had a cough. Felt a lot better yesterday and today would say I am about 8/10 back to my normal self. Hope I have seen the back of it now. Feel so lucky the way it has affected other people, will sign up for the plasma trials as soon as I can. From my place of work I am about the sixth who has tested positive and non of us seen to have been too badly affected. I hope this eases the fears that I know a lot of people on here must still be feeling.
 
blueparrot said:
That and ICU are probably the main two, particularly the ICU. I suspect, based on nothing at all, now the pressure is off hospitals a bit we could be hospitalising people earlier than at the start when capacity was a worry and treating them earlier with less severe symptoms, that intervention early could be preventing as much deterioration and be whats reducing the ICU requirement so much. As I say though thats just me speculating.
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The London Nightingale hospital might be closed shortly as it hasn't admitted a new patient for a week and at the last count it had only 19 patients.
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
The London Nightingale hospital might be closed shortly as it hasn't admitted a new patient for a week and at the last count it had only 19 patients.
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Yes, the Glasgow one was never used. I was basing my speculation on Scottish figures, hospital patients have dropped slowly from about 2100 when icu was about 220. Now hospital is about 1750 and ICU 108.
So hospital has dropped about 20% and icu 50%. Was just wondering for a reason and came up with the earlier intervention thing. Could be wrong maybe they are just learning better treatment methods.
 
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