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A further 649 people diagnosed with COVID-19 have died in the UK, taking the overall total to 30,076.

The figure released by the Department of Health is for coronavirus-related fatalities in all settings, including hospitals, care homes and the community, as of 5pm on Tuesday.

There have been 331 new deaths in hospitals in England, bringing the total to 22,049

In Wales, 21 more people have died after testing positive for coronavirus, taking the total number to 1,044.

In Northern Ireland, 14 further coronavirus deaths have been reported, bringing the total number of fatalities to 418.

In Scotland, there have been 83 further deaths, with the total now 1,703
 
twosips said:
I don't think it's quite really sunk in how big a number 30k deaths actually is for many. I'm really surprised how many are just kinda indifferent to it all. It's an awful lot. Did a quick calculation, and based on the UK population being 66m, that's 0.045% of the population who have passed away from this. Or one in every 2222 people in this country. Doesn't sound like much once again, but one in every 2222 people would be about 25 people out of a full Etihad stadium. That's pretty awful.

Now if the deaths are actually around the 50k mark like rumoured due to excess deaths, it's one in every 1333 people. Or 41 people out of a full Etihad stadium. I know the Etihad stadium thing is an odd comparison, but it made the numbers really hit home for me. That's a lot of people.

It's a fucking awful lot of death, and it makes me incredibly angry when you see how much of it could have been potentially avoided. We've got every right to look at Germany's significantly lower numbers and ask how we seemingly got it so wrong.

Obviously that death ratio is heavily weighted towards an older demographic too. Basically, the odds of someone's parents or grandparents passing away from this and just scarily small. Many more people should be taking this even more seriously than they are.
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30,000 out of a population of 66.65 is 0.045%.
Fuck all in the great scheme of things but any death is a lot for their friends and family to take.
 
BlueAnorak said:
A population of 4.8m sparsely spread across two islands and not am air travel hub.
I think my 4 year old granddaughter could do a good job under those circumstances.
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I understand. I wasn't suggesting that NZ was going to have 2000 dead or whatever figure you think would be comparable, but 21 suggests they saw the problem and reacted.
 
bluemoon32 said:
I know it's only in my little group of friends and associates but four of them have been contacted by their employers to return to work next week from furlough.
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Have they been advised on new working conditions and protocols to minimise risk?
 
karen7 said:
Sorry missed briefing

A further 649 people diagnosed with COVID-19 have died in the UK, taking the overall total to 30,076.

The figure released by the Department of Health is for coronavirus-related fatalities in all settings, including hospitals, care homes and the community, as of 5pm on Tuesday.

There have been 331 new deaths in hospitals in England, bringing the total to 22,049

In Wales, 21 more people have died after testing positive for coronavirus, taking the total number to 1,044.

In Northern Ireland, 14 further coronavirus deaths have been reported, bringing the total number of fatalities to 418.

In Scotland, there have been 83 further deaths, with the total now 1,703
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You didn't miss much.
They may as well not bother with them.
Only the public questions are worth it.
 
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SilverFox2 said:
Perhaps I phrased my uncertainty incorrectly.
Some people are carriers of the virus without showing symptoms. Others have had the virus but recovered.
Are both these group examples infection sources to all they contact?
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This gets tricky now,the ones who have had it,like me,are assumed to have some immunity but that is not confirmed and there is no test in the world in use specific enough that a Dr can say to a patient that you won't get it again,if we can get again then we can pass it into someone else again
Those without symptoms are passing it on yes
 
blueparrot said:
No, weekdays last week were in the high 700s, the weekdays the week before 800s up to over 1000.
This week 600s, so it’s obviously falling, not far enough yet but falling.
Plus around half are in care homes, which probably need different restrictions and measures to the general population.
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Yep , sorry
649 today vs 795, 837, 842 & 1034 on previous Wednesdays shows the clear decline.
 
BlueAnorak said:
30,000 out of a population of 66.65 is 0.045%.
Fuck all in the great scheme of things but any death is a lot for their friends and family to take.
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Fuck all in the great scheme of things???.

30 fucking thousand people ....

If that's fuck all I like to know what you consider a lot.
Or a significant ammount
 
Lying to our faces again.

“We can’t compare deaths with other countries as we all use different data”

*Show slide comparing deaths with other countries which is quickly removed*
 
“200,000 tests by the end of the month”

Is that why the past 4 days testing has been lower. Aggregating them for a 200,000 target on last day of May?
 
BlueAnorak said:
They learned their lesson from SARS though.
- They built a testing industry to deliver 50k tests a day initially that could be ramped up.
- Contact tracing teams set up read to go.
- Airport passenger monitoring already in place (not as good as Taiwan but not too shabby).
- A zillion tons of sanitizer and disinfectant stockpiled and ready to go.
- A mask manufacturing capability in place with a stockpile.
- Regular testing of their virus and civil defence capability.

What did our bunch of cretions in SAGE do?
They just though it would be bad flu from 2004 and continued to think it would be bad flu right up to February. They decided masks were a waste of time (even though it would have dramatically reduced infection on public transport).

The governmnts reaction has been poor but they started with a shit plan in the back pocket.
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Tbh SK is also a bit of an unfair comparison due to their history of dealing with this sort of thing, but it shows what can be done in a densely populated country that’s smaller in area than the UK.

The problem is that even if you compare us with any other country in the world, our response has been shambolic, considering we should have learnt lessons from SK, Italy and Spain but chose to ignore them and go our own way.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Yep , sorry
649 today vs 795, 837, 842 & 1034 on previous Wednesdays shows the clear decline.
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Think its a perception thing, when those earlier higher Wednesdays were reported, they were reported as 6/700s, then were bumped up later without anyone really noticing. So seeing 600 s now feels like no improvement, where at least now we know they are more realistic and hopefully in the next week or two we see them dropping to the 300 s, or lower.
Getting a grip on care homes would show a quicker fall.
 
BlueAnorak said:
30,000 out of a population of 66.65 is 0.045%.
Fuck all in the great scheme of things but any death is a lot for their friends and family to take.
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That's the exact percent that I said in the post. It's not an insignificant number either.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Yep , sorry
649 today vs 795, 837, 842 & 1034 on previous Wednesdays shows the clear decline.
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We are still growing ,down in hosps but care homes still going up,we are way above Spain and Italy and still going up,also this is only those tested positive or mentioned in death certificate,there will be many more
 
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