You read it in context of my previous posts and comeback to me, I've clearly stated we as fans have no idea of the reasoning behind Sane's departure, if he does leave.Read your own post.
Your some sort of wind up merchant looking for a reaction , now jog on.
you have always said he has an attitude and an ego,you don't know that,he has a laid back style about him and a resting bitch type face,none of which means he is a **** who should rot anywhere
You read it in context of my previous posts and comeback to me, I've clearly stated we as fans have no idea of the reasoning behind Sane's departure, if he does leave.
Even with the post in isolation I'd still love you to explain it because there's a very clear answer.
I think pep is to blame for not sorting out whatever the problem between them was,not a popular view i am sure
He scored the winner against Liverpool, the team we finished one point ahead of last season to win the title, so that would be the title decider.Playing against farmers lol
When did he score the winner in a derby and title deciding game ??
If you mean that shot straight at de gea that a keeper saves 999/1000 I think you’ll find we were 0-1 up and it wasn’t a winner fella.
made the score line 0-2 and a winner is taking game from a draw to a win
I have a couple of times but Ive always made my reasons clear for the moves and given the employer plenty of time
Ive never done it to further my career or for a pay increase however - just for relationship and family reasons.
The only reasons Leroy is leaving are for money and bruised ego about not being a regualr first team starter - he isnt going to a better club or different job
I think pep is to blame for not sorting out whatever the problem between them was,not a popular view i am sure
Pep is definitely partially to blame for this. He was too tough on him.
Is it possible Sane family are putting pressure on him to return to Germany?
Pep can't do much about that.
Absolutely. It's not all down to pep, of course. But f their relationship was better, than family would probably have less influence.
You've clearly interpreted whatever I said in completely the wrong way because I'm in complete agreement with you on Pep; I think he's doing everything he knows to try and get the best out of Sane, that's just what Pep does, that's what he loves to do.Not that it really matters in reality but you were staying that Sane despite his performances didn't have the managers confidence - maybe a fair comment.
As I see it, Pep believes that Sane is actually capable of achieving even more and wants him to try and improve certain aspects of his game - a bit like he has persuaded Sterling to do.
Now maybe ( neither I nor you know ) Sane believes that he is already performing to his absolute maximum , in which case he feels undervalued by Pep ?
If I understood your post , you were saying that in trying to get more from Sane , Pep was undermining his confidence .
I on the other hand see it as Pep trying to help the player achieve even more. If Pep did not believe that Sane was capable of achieving more, I believe that he wouldn't be pushing him.
If you disagree that is absolutely fine by me as the saga with this player and Bayern Munich is an emotive and provactive subject.
I think the likelihood will be the sale price will be 50-60 million mark also.
A lot less than we could have expected last season but his injury, current situation and another year passed on his contract has changed that.
Wish the lad well. His potential is unlimited but I do wonder if he really will kick on and make the most of his ability. I genuinely hope he will, as its been a pleasure watching him these last couple of years and develop from the rabbit in the headlights, he looked on his debut. No hard feelings from me as he has been a great servant to the club.
If sterling is having a bad game it looks worse because he still goes and looks for it, misses chances, he's there for the next one.
Leroy plays hide and seek on an off day. He's a fair weather player, in my humble opinion
That's what it appears like doesn't it? He is going home because he wants to, he has no need to show loyalty to a club he isn't a fan of. Wish the little bugger well get some cash for him and move on.
Try to see it through the eyes of German footballer and you might find that they have built a situation where playing for Bayern is absolute top of their career goals. The fact that Bayern pays well too obviously helps, but you won't find many Krooses out there who would swap Bayern for any other club. Germans are brainwashed into their football model and that model means Bayern first, the rest fight with each others. It's like Cold War era of CSKA in Russia or Steaua in Romaniai.
Well none of us know really but to me there has been a fall outIt’s bullshit, that’s why it isn’t a popular view.
How do you know Pep hasn’t spoke to him to try and smooth things over? I know he’s been consistent in saying he wants him to stay, everything else is guesswork.
Will be gutted to lose him, as he’s a truly outstanding talent. That’s the way modern football is though unfortunately. Players wield the power and if they want to go there is very little you can do. Hard to get too downbeat about it though, given that there are far more important things to contend with right now.
We’ve actually been pretty fortunate in that very few of our top players in recent years have looked to leave the club. We’ve been able to resist advances for the likes of Kompany, Aguero, Toure and Silva (and hopefully De Bruyne, Sterling, Jesus etc) so not going to cry over the one that got away.
Think the market will change dramatically in the coming months anyway, and we’ll see a higher turnover of players on low/free transfers. Hopefully we’ll be well placed to take advantage of it.
I could even image an attendance or success bonus on that. Schalke made a meal out of that for five years after selling us Neuer.
What I liked about him as a young player breaking through that he could really play shit for parts of the match but that he always could have his moments later in the match. Other players you knew that it is a loss with them when they make mistakes as they think about that for the whole rest of the match. But - it could be that when he plays bad or unlucky he might not survive long in matches with Pep. Have seen that with Müller who had some of his best matches when he looked terrible in the first half but was match winner in the second - not really with Pep.
As I told before - I am not really sold on Sane. It is not so much because of his quality - I think he is a great winger but needs the matchplay being adapted to him - but because of the transfer situation - and yes, the mentality issue. I do not think he is in a higher talent class than about same age Coman or Gnabry. Gnabry now really started to deliver and has made the step from talent to star. But he is a much more direct player like e.g. Robben was. Coman lacks the end product but is great in holding and carrying the ball - if you have the other three offensives delivering numbers in the way they do this season that is a special treat, too, in a ball playing system. But with Heynckes Coman had a good end product - he just has been injured too often in the last two years. With Davies and his speed and quality going forward as a fullback on the left side an inverted, direct right footed player would be the optimum. Sane is not that so that he probably would have to be starting on the right - and change his match.
Actually Bayern is not home. Sane is home in the west of Germany. And I do not know if it is not easier for him to live in England than in Germany. What might feel more home to him are some of the players he knows for ages like Goretzka, Kimmich and Gnabry. His father might like that his old coach Gerland is the assistant again - and Flick who he knows well is the coach.
Actually there are paralells.
Kroos went because Bayern did not want to pay him the money that he wanted at that time. He was a talent then with sparks what he could become, but drove you really crazy with his laziness and lack of defensive awareness - not in a different situation than now Sane. Wanted to already earn as much as the top earners. Müller and Kroos were offered similar raised wages in autumn of 2012 - Müller extended, Kroos did not. He and his agent after that played games - e.g. when his agent brought Moyes (then United coach) to the stands in a Bayern match - but Bayern told that they only would extend to the fair conditions they offered to him. They sold him a year before he would have been a free agent.
I could even image an attendance or success bonus on that. Schalke made a meal out of that for five years after selling us Neuer.
What I liked about him as a young player breaking through that he could really play shit for parts of the match but that he always could have his moments later in the match. Other players you knew that it is a loss with them when they make mistakes as they think about that for the whole rest of the match. But - it could be that when he plays bad or unlucky he might not survive long in matches with Pep. Have seen that with Müller who had some of his best matches when he looked terrible in the first half but was match winner in the second - not really with Pep.
As I told before - I am not really sold on Sane. It is not so much because of his quality - I think he is a great winger but needs the matchplay being adapted to him - but because of the transfer situation - and yes, the mentality issue. I do not think he is in a higher talent class than about same age Coman or Gnabry. Gnabry now really started to deliver and has made the step from talent to star. But he is a much more direct player like e.g. Robben was. Coman lacks the end product but is great in holding and carrying the ball - if you have the other three offensives delivering numbers in the way they do this season that is a special treat, too, in a ball playing system. But with Heynckes Coman had a good end product - he just has been injured too often in the last two years. With Davies and his speed and quality going forward as a fullback on the left side an inverted, direct right footed player would be the optimum. Sane is not that so that he probably would have to be starting on the right - and change his match.
Actually Bayern is not home. Sane is home in the west of Germany. And I do not know if it is not easier for him to live in England than in Germany. What might feel more home to him are some of the players he knows for ages like Goretzka, Kimmich and Gnabry. His father might like that his old coach Gerland is the assistant again - and Flick who he knows well is the coach.
Actually there are paralells.
Kroos went because Bayern did not want to pay him the money that he wanted at that time. He was a talent then with sparks what he could become, but drove you really crazy with his laziness and lack of defensive awareness - not in a different situation than now Sane. Wanted to already earn as much as the top earners. Müller and Kroos were offered similar raised wages in autumn of 2012 - Müller extended, Kroos did not. He and his agent after that played games - e.g. when his agent brought Moyes (then United coach) to the stands in a Bayern match - but Bayern told that they only would extend to the fair conditions they offered to him. They sold him a year before he would have been a free agent.