Deal agreed with Bayern Munich for Leroy Sane - €60m (including add-ons)

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ctid1894 said:
I've not contradicted myself once.

Sane signed a 5 year contract to play football for us; he's under no obligation to sign a new contract, he's under no obligation to make us a profit from a transfer fee, he's under no obligation to stay after the five years are completed. At this moment in time he has done absolutely nothing 'proven' to suggest he won't continue to play football for us until the remaining year of his contract is completed. Until we have definitive proof the speculation and claims suggesting he has agreed a deal with Bayern are true, I will not criticise him because I have no basis on which to do so. Do I think he's held talks with Bayern? Probably. Do I like it? No. Can I prove it? No.

We as a club have can attract players with a million and one different things, in my eyes we're the best club in the world. We have the best owners, the best manager, the best facilities, the best sustainable long term vision and the best moral values and ethics (blue tinted glasses I know but the way we have treated players, managers and the community as a whole in times of need e.g. allowing Mancini to take time off, allowing Pellegrini to take time off, allowing Zabaleta and Silva to take time off, the calls to older fans during lockdown, it's what makes us so special as a club). You can always attract some players with money alone but if that's the sole reason they want to come here, I don't want them and it seems the club don't either.

To punish Sane (or any player for that matter) for wanting to leave whatever the reasoning behind it, is just stupid and undermines everything we do as a club to make it so special. No one has advocated giving Sane to Bayern on a free transfer or for £35m, we will obviously try to get the best deal we can for the club but that's also got to be tempered with the fact we do things the right way.

I care about the way our management team, players, staff and fans perceive the club; not what some jumped up prick in the media thinks about us being weak or bowing to pressure from Bayern, that's all irrelevant, they make shit up anyway, so it doesn't matter what we do.

Let Sane go, get the best deal we can without lowering ourselves to other clubs standards and move on to bigger and better things.
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Completely deviating again, bringing up things that were never in dispute. You have once again backed up my point that players would still join us though if we hardballed Sane.
 
bastianovic said:
So y’all gonna act like ManCity is the more powerful party here and winning?
Come on: you’re facing a situation where you probably loose a 100 Million valued player for free - you’re recognizing that?

From Bayern perspective the free transfer would be considered as best case scenario. Leroy will need a few more months to get back his old form and in this time you have to pay his full wage. We can finalize the paperwork already in January and get a fully healthy player for free by next season.
And sane is in a bad situation? If he makes his move next year for free he will get a nice part of that money we are offering you at the moment for himself (signing bonus on free transfers are common, happened with Goretzka too).

so I see one side extremely under pressure which is ManCity
Two sides would be winning huge in case of a free move: Bayern and Sané

but well, go ahead pretending that you are in the powerful position
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The thing is you „can“ but what if Teams like Barcelona, PSG , Juventus and Real Madrid intervene? You can‘t really know if Sané would still want to go to Bayern if he gets more options or just wait until the Euro next Year to make sure that he chooses the right path, can you?
On your former post you said that it‘s a childish behavior from City that they didn‘t liked Bayern talking about Sané to the press. Well, it‘s obvious. He is a player of Manchester City - not from Bayern Munich.
but i insist that if Barcelona comes and says something like „Lewandowski is a nice player he would fit well with Messi and we are in talks with him“ you wouldn‘t care?

another thing that I want to include is that the Host of the 2022 CL Final is Munich right ? There‘s no alternative for you guys to him especially since he is a German player and might be the future of the National team. If he stays another Year and then joined you guys how u going to know with the pressure to reach the finals of 2022 - that he is the right player? For me City is neither winning but losing. If we can‘t find a good alternative or go with Braaf so he can learn from
Sané within that Year - we are probably going to be fine. Especially without Cl. If we get a 1 year ban at least (hopeful starting 2022) i wouldn‘t mind keeping Sané to go on a last full attack next season.

bayern is definitely not winning. Especially since u have a joke of a sports director who can‘t even speak in front of the media without stuttering. Or let‘s say Uli Hoeneß who Said „ ihr wisst gar nicht wen wir schon alles haben „ = you guys don’t know who already have/ are in talks with. In the end you guys only got a Coutinho who is not the 2017 Coutinho anymore and some old guy called Perisic who is not in his prime anymore.

You guys also extended that contract with Müller so there‘s no place for Havertz- no matter how bad Müller plays - he is always going to play.

There is no alternative for you guys to Sané. If I was a Bayern Fan i would be very
MAD if he doesn‘t turn up this summer.
 
goatersnipple said:
Exactly.
We either get the amount we want or he can stay and leave for nothing
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Esteban de la Sexface said:
And Bayern lose out on a player they really want for 12 months for being ****s, also, Leroy might think twice if they're willing to let him sit on the bench for 12 months and not meet our valuation.

How much do you really want him, Bayern?

Unfortunately, Leroy has put himself in a very precarious position.
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Exactly this. He’s our player for another year. He can either (a) extend his deal and help us get a fair price for him next summer whilst playing and developing, (b) get Bayern to pay up this summer, or (c) let his contract run down and not play for a whole season.

Genuinely baffles me how some people on here want us to be bent over by Bayern and Sane
 
bastianovic said:
Bayern is the healthiest club worldwide when it comes to financing and we have not financed any transfer with debt which is one of the most important principle within the club. If you want to blame some rigged clubs from FFP perspective go on with PSG, Real Madrid (who spent apr. 200 million each year), ManU, or maybe with your own club.
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You don't get into any transfer debt because you tap your targets up illegally in the media for the last two years of their contracts meaning you don't need to pay much for them, if anything at all.

You total shithouse.
 
bastianovic said:
Nice that you mention the easiest point. Our sponsoring by Audi runs for quite a while now. To my knowledge, FFP doesn't forbid sponsoring from a shareholder in general as long as the amount of money is fair for market standards. Investors are also not allowed to compensate more than 30 mil of losses. And btw in Germany we have the rule that no investor is allowed to own a majority (more than 50%) of the shares - which is a huge contrast to your club and structure. Anyway, I don't know why ManCity got flagged and if that ban holds, but saying that Bayern is favoured by the FFP is the biggest BS I ever read. Bayern is the healthiest club worldwide when it comes to financing and we have not financed any transfer with debt which is one of the most important principle within the club. If you want to blame some rigged clubs from FFP perspective go on with PSG, Real Madrid (who spent apr. 200 million each year), ManU, or maybe with your own club.
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Bayern is the most parasitic club in football. It leaches on it’s league’s clubs, taking their players without paying them a fee by tapping them up. Owners and shareholders that are tax dodgers. They even lost their head when a fair competitor in RB Leipzig come along because they broke the 50+1 rule. Bayern obviously adhere to every fair play rule whilst having cash injections from their sponsors Audi, Adidas, and Allianz. The rest are hidden, but continue acting as if your club is the bastion of football. In fact be proud of that beautiful team that made the Bundesliga a farmers league by ruining every other team in Germany.
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
In what way is it punishing Sane to have him fulfil his contract? He will be allowed to leave if his club of choosing meet our valuation. If they don't he'll have to spend 12 months at a club he doesn't want to be at. That's how it works.

You've taken a bizarre stance here. You think Leroy and Bayern should be awarded with an easy transfer despite their behaviour. (Alleged for Leroy, fact for Bayern) because it will look bad for future player recruitment if we don't bend over

Can you not see how ridiculous that is?
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Numerous posters throughout this thread (@racecar has just said it again at the bottom of page 1534) have called for Sane to have his playing time limited and for Sane to be banished to the reserves; that is the punishment which I disagree with until such time we have definitive proof of him agreeing a deal with Bayern Munich behind our back. At this stage we have no reason to believe Sane will not fulfil the remainder of his contract, he's not publically said he wants to leave and he's not refused to play for the club.

When have I ever said anything about bending over and making it easy for Bayern Munich? The fact is I haven't, not once. I have said we should get the best deal for us. If Bayern don't meet our valuation, Sane stays as part of the squad for the next 12 months.
 
ctid1894 said:
Numerous posters throughout this thread (@racecar has just said it again at the bottom of page 1534) have called for Sane to have his playing time limited and for Sane to be banished to the reserves; that is the punishment which I disagree with until such time we have definitive proof of him agreeing a deal with Bayern Munich behind our back. At this stage we have no reason to believe Sane will not fulfil the remainder of his contract, he's not publically said he wants to leave and he's not refused to play for the club.

When have I ever said anything about bending over and making it easy for Bayern Munich? The fact is I haven't, not once. I have said we should get the best deal for us. If Bayern don't meet our valuation, Sane stays as part of the squad for the next 12 months.
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If Sane wanted to be here he'd have signed an extension.

You're basically in agreement that Sane stays if Bayern don't pony up.

What the fuck have you been shiteing on about all day then?

What an absolute waste of everybody's time
 
ctid1894 said:
Numerous posters throughout this thread (@racecar has just said it again at the bottom of page 1534) have called for Sane to have his playing time limited and for Sane to be banished to the reserves; that is the punishment which I disagree with until such time we have definitive proof of him agreeing a deal with Bayern Munich behind our back. At this stage we have no reason to believe Sane will not fulfil the remainder of his contract, he's not publically said he wants to leave and he's not refused to play for the club.

When have I ever said anything about bending over and making it easy for Bayern Munich? The fact is I haven't, not once. I have said we should get the best deal for us. If Bayern don't meet our valuation, Sane stays as part of the squad for the next 12 months.
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What more do you need as proof? Sane doing a recorded video with a newspaper to show the date for you?

Have you forgotten about their conduct last year? How they non-stopped were discussing Sane. Moreover, his agent has said enough. Hyping up his tenure at Bayern in his interviews with German news outlets. Our own mouth pieces have been briefed about us being discontent with Bayern and their approach.

He has been tapped up and we are in a shit position because of it. That is the reason behind some posters views that we should be tough on him. Letting him go on Bayerns terms is just poor management from us. I would prefer us to come out on top and if it means being rough on Sane, then be it.
 
Having lived in Germany(well technically West Germany)in the 1980s the relationship that the rest of the league have with Bayern is outright strange, it is almost as if the whole league is set up to promote them as a club they have pretty much first refusal on any German player leaving one of their rivals and they make United seem humble when it comes to their level of entitlement.

That being said if Sane wants to go and the club can reach an agreement then good luck to him, Bayern though, sorry no......(ideally someone else will come in with an offer and even if we take something of a hit it would be great to see)
 
ctid1894 said:
Numerous posters throughout this thread (@racecar has just said it again at the bottom of page 1534) have called for Sane to have his playing time limited and for Sane to be banished to the reserves; that is the punishment which I disagree with until such time we have definitive proof of him agreeing a deal with Bayern Munich behind our back. At this stage we have no reason to believe Sane will not fulfil the remainder of his contract, he's not publically said he wants to leave and he's not refused to play for the club.

When have I ever said anything about bending over and making it easy for Bayern Munich? The fact is I haven't, not once. I have said we should get the best deal for us. If Bayern don't meet our valuation, Sane stays as part of the squad for the next 12 months.
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Backtrack of the year so far.

If he runs his contract down then why on earth would we play him? Why play a player who isn’t committed to the project?
 
racecar said:
Backtrack of the year so far.

If he runs his contract down then why on earth would we play him? Why play a player who isn’t committed to the project?
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Here's to you Vincent Kompany, City loves you more than you will know oooooooooohhhhh!!!!!

I seem to remember he smashed one in the top corner just before he told us all he wasn't going to be renewing his contract and he was leaving for pastures new. Next you'll tell me that move wasn't planned out in advance and he's a **** because he should have signed a new contract so Anderlecht would have to cough up some money for him.

No, thought not. Double standards.
 
racecar said:
Backtrack of the year so far.

If he runs his contract down then why on earth would we play him? Why play a player who isn’t committed to the project?
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If we aren’t going to play him why on earth would we turn down the money we could use on someone we will play that is commited. What if we want to spend the money on Aouar and have budgeted for the Sane money to do it.
 
ctid1894 said:
Here's to you Vincent Kompany, City loves you more than you will know oooooooooohhhhh!!!!!

I seem to remember he smashed one in the top corner just before he told us all he wasn't going to be renewing his contract and he was leaving for pastures new. Next you'll tell me that move wasn't planned out in advance and he's a **** because he should have signed a new contract so Anderlecht would have to cough up some money for him.

No, thought not. Double standards.
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Wow. You'd rather discredit one of the most loyal servants of the football club than lose face on the INTERNET.

Low. Real low. Snakes belly stuff

Kompany and City came to a mutual agreement.

Kompany was honourable throughout. He pretty much retired mate

Leroy is damned by his silence. At least if he made his stance clear you could have some bit of respect for him
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
If Sane wanted to be here he'd have signed an extension.

You're basically in agreement that Sane stays if Bayern don't pony up.

What the fuck have you been shiteing on about all day then?

What an absolute waste of everybody's time
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Ilkay Gundogan didn't sign his new contract until 9th August, despite having less than a year to run. Did he want to leave as well? You have no proof Sane wants to leave, not signing a new contract does not mean he wants to leave, as Gundogan proved.

Esteban de la Sexface said:
Wow. You'd rather discredit one of the most loyal servants of the football club than lose face on the INTERNET.

Low. Real low. Snakes belly stuff

Kompany and City came to a mutual agreement.

Kompany was honourable throughout. He pretty much retired mate

Leroy is damned by his silence. At least if he made his stance clear you could have some bit of respect for him
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Now you'll explain how I discredit Kompany, this shall be entertaining. Let me grab some popcorn.
 
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