Deal agreed with Bayern Munich for Leroy Sane - €60m (including add-ons)

[Esteban de la Sexface]

this is not going to end well for sane unless he signs a new contract at city and then let city sell him to munich for the right market value if he want out

the club have stood behind sane all the way in his injury lay off and did all they could to help him back to full fitness and that's before we made him a rising up and coming star player, so sane should respect manchester city and not looking for a cheap way out. its only going to end in hate if he walks away for nothing or next to nothing and the respect we have for him will be gone

if the lad wants out because of family issues or want to go back to germany because he can not settle in england then do it the right way. and the fans will understand and will respect your move ? but playing a dirty trick and getting agents and others to do the dirty work, and then move to munich because of the money they have offered you in wages if you get a cheap move

sign a new deal at city and make the others pay the market value if they want you that bad ? that way you become known as somebody that is in football for the right reasons and you respect the club your at and the work they have put into your early years at city. and by the way you was not on peanuts at man city and the offer they made on a new contract was in line with the better players at the club at that age

greedy and making a fool of yourself is wanting out on the cheap show some respect and payback something to the club and the fans that stood behind you and give you that chance in the first place

Hard disagree with any of this.

Even if the chap had the balls to come out and say what he wanted outright I'd have a bit more respect for him

 

[ctid1894]

He is not spinning it into a different context. We have established it plenty of times that being tough with players has no impact on clubs’ future signings.

You are changing your stance like a bipolar person changes his/her mood.

In your opinion it wouldn't impact future signings, my opinion is different.

Show it then, you keep saying it but won't prove it because you know your talking bollocks.

 

[ctid1894]

Germany didn't pick him for the last world cup and he was fully fit and just had his best season. Was that City's fault too?

No.

 

[Grealish’s Shinpads]

In your opinion it wouldn't impact future signings, my opinion is different.

Show it then, you keep saying it but won't prove it because you know your talking bollocks.

We’ve repeatedly proven it in previous posts and you are choosing to ignore it. You listed a lot of the club’s pull factors yourself, contradicting your own point in the process whilst you were trying to deviate.

 

[Kokonut1307]

In your opinion it wouldn't impact future signings, my opinion is different.

Show it then, you keep saying it but won't prove it because you know your talking bollocks.

Do you really not understand anything that has been said to you throughout the day?

Arsenal, United, Liverpool, PSG, Real, Barca, even Bayern (+countless other teams) have hardballed their players. They seem to be able sign players despite all those fiascos. Specific examples being Suarez, RVP, Ronaldo, Beckham, Veratti, Gerrard, and Ribery.

Does that satisfy your need for evidence or you need more? I eagerly wait the next issue with my point.

 

[Grealish’s Shinpads]

Do you really not understand anything that has been said to you throughout the day?

Arsenal, United, Liverpool, PSG, Real, Barca, even Bayern (+countless other teams) have hardballed their players. They seem to be able sign players despite all those fiascos. Specific examples being Suarez, RVP, Ronaldo, Beckham, Veratti, Gerrard, and Ribery.

Does that satisfy your need for evidence or you need more? I eagerly wait the next issue with my point.

*insert random deviation that is completely irrelevant to the discussion*
*insert demand for a question to be asked*

 

[LucahArchie10]

Stick the finger right up simple as that, give them fuckall this year make him see out his contract

Let's be honest if he wasnt injured then City would have bagged 90m at least last year, Bayern have saved big bucks but were expecting him last Summer imo

Fuck em make them wait 2 years, unless they come cap in hand then maybe just maybe Juventus, Barca, Real all come knocking & to be honest its probably our best option than to take 40-45m over 2 years, they wont have to pay all up front so either give us everything in 1 go or try get other teams involved

He may want Bayern but who knows 12 months down the line, he may get another knock who knows look at Mendy

Leroy has been a twat not all Bayerns doing imo give them both fuckall unless

Bayern pay up in 1 go
Gnabry or Alaba in exchange

 

[ManCityLibat]

Stick the finger right up simple as that, give them fuckall this year make him see out his contract

Let's be honest if he wasnt injured then City would have bagged 90m at least last year, Bayern have saved big bucks but were expecting him last Summer imo

Fuck em make them wait 2 years, unless they come cap in hand then maybe just maybe Juventus, Barca, Real all come knocking & to be honest its probably our best option than to take 40-45m over 2 years, they wont have to pay all up front so either give us everything in 1 go or try get other teams involved

He may want Bayern but who knows 12 months down the line, he may get another knock who knows look at Mendy

Leroy has been a twat not all Bayerns doing imo give them both fuckall unless

Bayern pay up in 1 go
Gnabry or Alaba in exchange

And what exactly would you gain by that? Let's see, on one hand you'd have missed out on 50m, have to pay Sane's salary for one season, set a big red flag to players contemplating signing for Man City, and Bayern still get their man in the end. Do you think it's worth doing all this just out of spite, because Man City would be the biggest losers in this scenario.

 

[ancoats]

Hard disagree with any of this.

Even if the chap had the balls to come out and say what he wanted outright I'd have a bit more respect for him

me too

if he wants to go home and play in germany that's fine and i could understand it. but don't play manchester city for fools and want out on the cheap. nobody would moan if munich was paying top dollar and market value ? then city could bring in somebody and replace sane with the same sort of class. the money generated from the sale would be also great for city with the FFP uefa rules have setup when signing a replacement because it would be classed as our own money

many things in the sane deal is harmful to city and if he goes to munich for peanuts we will be made to spend money and again questions would be asked about the FFP. but if we get £100 million then at least we have free money to bring in the best option

come on sane do the right thing sign a new contract and then city can at least sell you for the market value if you want to leave

 

[ctid1894]

We’ve repeatedly proven it in previous posts and you are choosing to ignore it. You listed a lot of the club’s pull factors yourself, contradicting your own point in the process whilst you were trying to deviate.

I've contradicted nothing, just because one factor exists doesn't mean others don't.

Do you really not understand anything that has been said to you throughout the day?

Arsenal, United, Liverpool, PSG, Real, Barca, even Bayern (+countless other teams) have hardballed their players. They seem to be able sign players despite all those fiascos. Specific examples being Suarez, RVP, Ronaldo, Beckham, Veratti, Gerrard, and Ribery.

Does that satisfy your need for evidence or you need more? I eagerly wait the next issue with my point.

I've never once said or implied we won't be able to sign players whatever we do with Sane, not once. I have said letting him go without any hard feelings/punishments (once we agree an acceptable fee) will retain our class and decorum which will be yet another positive factor in attracting players. All my posts, every single one has been about the positive impact treating players with respect brings because it establishes a bond (e.g. Kompany, Silva, Aguero, Zabaleta) and makes us such a special club. If you can find anything, a single post deviating from that stance, please do post it and I'll apologise in full.

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

I've contradicted nothing, just because one factor exists doesn't mean others don't.

I've never once said or implied we won't be able to sign players whatever we do with Sane, not once. I have said letting him go without any hard feelings/punishments (once we agree an acceptable fee) will retain our class and decorum which will be yet another positive factor in attracting players. All my posts, every single one has been about the positive impact treating players with respect brings because it establishes a bond (e.g. Kompany, Silva, Aguero, Zabaleta) and makes us such a special club. If you can find anything, a single post deviating from that stance, please do post it and I'll apologise in full.

To punish Sane (or any player for that matter) for wanting to leave whatever the reasoning behind it, is just stupid and undermines everything we do as a club to make it so special

that is the punishment which I disagree with until such time we have definitive proof of him agreeing a deal with Bayern Munich behind our back. At this stage we have no reason to believe Sane will not fulfil the remainder of his contract, he's not publically said he wants to leave and he's not refused to play for the club.

You've said you will agree with punishment if it's proven Leroy spoke with Bayern, while saying punishing him undermines the club and everything we do to make it special.
Punishment is a very strange term to use in this context. He will get handsomely rewarded at both ends of the deal. And at the end he'll end up at the club he wants to be at.

You've agreed you think he doesn't want to be here on numerous occasions. How can he be involved in the first team if you think he doesn't want to be here?

 

[ManCityLibat]

Why should Sane be punished if he's spoken with Bayern? It's well within his right to do that.

 

[grandsolo]

as English is not my mother tongue I am not sure if the word „rigged“ is offensive language, my dictionary translated it with manipulated.
Your club is currently facing a ban by the UEFA exactly for manipulation. So you all act like this is Fake News or you don’t care? Or can you not take the truth on that matter?
I intentionally put a „maybe“ in my statement leaving the option that the decision could be overruled but as for now, it stands that ManCity is in trouble for financial structures within the club.

I believe my club to be completely innocent of any wrongdoing. Your club on the other hand routinely taps players up, in public, with no shame. If any club is rigged I'd say it's the ones blatantly illegally tapping up players. The "truth" you speak of is illegally obtained leaks by a magazine from which country? Look at home before coming on here making accusations.

 

[ManCityLibat]

blatantly illegally tapping up players

Oh no! You're one of those guys who thinks the English FA tapping up rules apply to international transfers! I suggest you read FIFA's regulations.

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

with no shame

and no recriminations.

 

[cleavers]

Oh no! You're one of those guys who thinks the English FA tapping up rules apply to international transfers! I suggest you read FIFA's regulations.

Who do you support then, bayern ?

Sane is under contract with City, and being well paid by them so he shouldn't be talking to anyone else.

 

[grandsolo]

Oh no! You're one of those guys who thinks the English FA tapping up rules apply to international transfers! I suggest you read FIFA's regulations.

Cheers:
Currently, under FIFA and FA transfer rules, if a club wants to procure the services of a player registered with another club, they must speak directly with that club and not to the player or his representatives. The player and his representatives will only be brought in for discussions with the potential purchasing club once the two clubs have agreed a fee.

Often a club wishing to buy a player from another club will contact the player directly to try and persuade him to join them should a bidding war for that player ensue. Also, if the club wishing to sign the player feels his current club would be unwilling to sell, they may contact the player to unsettle him at his current club and thus persuade him to hand in a transfer request.

I believe Bayern has been tapping up Sane. That's my opinion

 

[ManCityLibat]

Who do you support then, bayern ?

Sane is under contract with City, and being well paid by them so he shouldn't be talking to anyone else.

Wow, you assume I'm not a Man City fan just because I don't share the fairytale that Bayern are breaking some rule? As I said, the English FA tapping up rules do not apply for an international transfer. Had it been Liverpool instead, it'd be tapping up, but since Bayern aren't an English club they (almost definitely) haven't broken any rule.

You're free to call it unethical, my friend, but it certainly isn't illegal.

 

[ManCityLibat]

Cheers:
Currently, under FIFA and FA transfer rules, if a club wants to procure the services of a player registered with another club, they must speak directly with that club and not to the player or his representatives. The player and his representatives will only be brought in for discussions with the potential purchasing club once the two clubs have agreed a fee.

Often a club wishing to buy a player from another club will contact the player directly to try and persuade him to join them should a bidding war for that player ensue. Also, if the club wishing to sign the player feels his current club would be unwilling to sell, they may contact the player to unsettle him at his current club and thus persuade him to hand in a transfer request.

I believe Bayern has been tapping up Sane. That's my opinion

The FIFA rules:

You don't even need to get permission, just let the holding club know and proceed, as long as you don't sign the final contract.

If instead this was a transfer between 2 English clubs, then there's further English FA regulations over and above the FIFA rules that would prohibit such behaviour.

Hope this helps.

 

[blueparrot]

Cheers:
Currently, under FIFA and FA transfer rules, if a club wants to procure the services of a player registered with another club, they must speak directly with that club and not to the player or his representatives. The player and his representatives will only be brought in for discussions with the potential purchasing club once the two clubs have agreed a fee.

Often a club wishing to buy a player from another club will contact the player directly to try and persuade him to join them should a bidding war for that player ensue. Also, if the club wishing to sign the player feels his current club would be unwilling to sell, they may contact the player to unsettle him at his current club and thus persuade him to hand in a transfer request.

I believe Bayern has been tapping up Sane. That's my opinion

We have heard a few stories of Pep and Txiki talking to some of the targets we’ve signed, sure ZZKDB mentioned it, Aouar being the latest apparently. It’s common practice speak to the player and agent to see if they are interested before making offers. No point at all getting sanctimonious about it happening to us.