Between what you find annoying, irritating or downright nasty and what is irregular (i.e. against regulations) there's worlds apart. If you believe you have found a particular regulation that Bayern have broken, post the clause and the proof that it was broken, otherwise it's just conjecture and unfounded accusations.Erm your chairman every single day giving comments to everyone that he wants him/is sure he will get him ,from May till we slapped him down later in the summer of do you not read the papers or watch any media ? He also had to them in turn slap down your manager and the media
Steady on old boy,tip for you,don't come in pairs because you stand out a mileBetween what you find annoying, irritating or downright nasty and what is irregular (i.e. against regulations) there's worlds apart. If you believe you have found a particular regulation that Bayern have broken, post the clause and the proof that it was broken, otherwise it's just conjecture and unfounded accusations.
It’s a FIFA regulationIf such a clause exists in Sane's contract that prohibits him from talking to other clubs, then it would be an illegal clause and I don't think anyone here has a copy of his contract either.
Look, everybody buys players from other clubs. We do, others do as well. You can't take it against a player simply because he wants to move to a top club in his homeland. If there's any shred of evidence that any irregularities exist, then I'd back you up, but at this point it would be a bold claim to say there were irregularities.
If such a clause exists in Sane's contract that prohibits him from talking to other clubs, then it would be an illegal clause and I don't think anyone here has a copy of his contract either.
Look, everybody buys players from other clubs. We do, others do as well. You can't take it against a player simply because he wants to move to a top club in his homeland. If there's any shred of evidence that any irregularities exist, then I'd back you up, but at this point it would be a bold claim to say there were irregularities.
Run by criminals bullies personifiedjoined the forum today, backing sane and tries to deny he’s a bayern fan...... fuck off mate!! Bayern are the corona virus of football!
Under FIFA and FA rules yes, but the FA rules do not apply to international transfers. If you go a couple of pages earlier I posted a screenshot of the actual FIFA regulations that are far more lenient than the FA ones.It’s a FIFA regulation
“Currently, under FIFA and FA transfer rules, if a club wants to procure the services of a player registered with another club, they must speak directly with that club and not to the player or his representatives. The player and his representatives will only be brought in for discussions with the potential purchasing club once the two clubs have agreed a fee”
https://www.inbrief.co.uk/football-law/football-player-under-contract-approach-clubs/
BTW Were you at York away?
Not when he’d 2yrs left on his contract he aint, & don’t fuckin kid yourself he hadn’t been talking to them ever since he’s refused to sign the new contract we’ve offered him, he’s played us big time, top class player at times but i’ve fuckall respect for him nowWhy should Sane be punished if he's spoken with Bayern? It's well within his right to do that.
Under FIFA and FA rules yes, but the FA rules do not apply to international transfers. If you go a couple of pages earlier I posted a screenshot of the actual FIFA regulations that are far more lenient than the FA ones.
Also, I've never been to York. Or Manchester. But I've been to London 4 times.
Wow, you assume I'm not a Man City fan just because I don't share the fairytale that Bayern are breaking some rule? As I said, the English FA tapping up rules do not apply for an international transfer. Had it been Liverpool instead, it'd be tapping up, but since Bayern aren't an English club they (almost definitely) haven't broken any rule.
You're free to call it unethical, my friend, but it certainly isn't illegal.
I'm not sure how you think we sign anyone. Do you seriously think that we have no idea whether players are interested in signing for us until we've agreed a fee?It’s a FIFA regulation
“Currently, under FIFA and FA transfer rules, if a club wants to procure the services of a player registered with another club, they must speak directly with that club and not to the player or his representatives. The player and his representatives will only be brought in for discussions with the potential purchasing club once the two clubs have agreed a fee”
https://www.inbrief.co.uk/football-law/football-player-under-contract-approach-clubs/
BTW Were you at York away?
To be fair it’s been written in every fucking issue of the German papers + every single bundesliga manager has announced Bayern’s interest + the national team manager.FIFA Reg Jan 2020 Pg 24 #3 To paraphrase it says Club must inform the player’s current club in writing before entering negotiations
So when did the bullies inform Sane’s current club in writing? Since they have already apologised for speaking about him in public
It's funny how upset they all get about it, I just genuinely don't get it. They all put it down to money but that doesn't make sense because we're not exactly shy as a club about paying players well when they've earned it (e.g. KDB, Sterling, Laporte, Bernardo and Ederson). There's not even a consideration it might be a personal or family reason which he doesn't want to be in the public domain, it's just all out rage because he dares to leave our club. It's sad and pathetic that they're happy to go with the trial by media for Sane but hate trial by media when it's the media persecuting the club in relation to FFP.
I’m pointing out the regulations not the reality Of course clubs speak to playersI'm not sure how you think we sign anyone. Do you seriously think that we have no idea whether players are interested in signing for us until we've agreed a fee?
Wow, you assume I'm not a Man City fan just because I don't share the fairytale that Bayern are breaking some rule? As I said, the English FA tapping up rules do not apply for an international transfer. Had it been Liverpool instead, it'd be tapping up, but since Bayern aren't an English club they (almost definitely) haven't broken any rule.
You're free to call it unethical, my friend, but it certainly isn't illegal.
No, we assume you’re not a City fan, because of your diction and your tone, an impression not dissipated by the faux incredulous ‘wow’ gambit much favoured by imposters protesting their innocence. There are plenty of people on this thread that hold broadly the same view as you (and I’m arguing with them as well), but they are clearly City fans and I respect their right to their opinions even though I may disagree vehemently with them. Something about you though screams wrong ‘un. Your references to City read as how a fan of another club might awkwardly refer to us, and your 9 posts are another red flag. I’d peg you as a Bayern fan, but your English is otherwise immaculate, so I don’t know who you support, I’m just suspicious of your claim that it’s City
The manner of the departure is still all press speculation at this point; Aguero and Silva were linked with Barcelona and Real Madrid every single summer for about 5/6 years. Pep has been nailed on to go to Juventus the last two summers as well. Did they encourage those clubs? No, they denied the links but even when they spoke out the speculation never went away, so why bother if it's ignored.For the umpteenth time, it isn’t because he wants to leave City that fans are annoyed, it’s the manner of the departure. This shit show, with Bayern taking the piss out of us in the media, has been going on for 18 months, and there is no way that would be happening without active encouragement from Sane’s camp. And if there’s a personal or compassionate reason he wants to leave, well then he’s had nearly 2 years - which is how long the new contract offer has been on the table - to communicate that reason to the club, and unless you are suggesting that our owners and managers are complete bastards determined to ‘punish’ him and ride roughshod over any such reason, then I don’t see that as a viable argument
The manner of the departure is still all press speculation at this point; Aguero and Silva were linked with Barcelona and Real Madrid every single summer for about 5/6 years. Pep has been nailed on to go to Juventus the last two summers as well. Did they encourage those clubs? No, they denied the links but even when they spoke out the speculation never went away, so why bother if it's ignored.
Let's wait to find out the facts before we lay the blame at anyone's door, although Bayern's persistent public speaking pursuit is bullshit.
2 or 5/6 years, persistent or sporadic, speak out or keep quiet - It still all amounts to press speculation and trial by media, until we have the facts.The difference between Aguero and Sane, is that 1. They were spasmodic in Aguero’s case, and 2. They were driven largely by the media in Aguero’s case, ie. Real weren’t wheeling out a different player or coach to talk about Aguero literally every single day like Bayern are, and furthermore I don't recall Sergio sitting on any new contract offers for 2 years. Also, at no point has Sane taken the simple step Pep took in denying the rumours