COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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twosips said:
Do they mean currently infected, or have been infected at any point?
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Infected over a recent 2 week time period. The 148k is the median estimate (the real number will be between 94k and 220k). The study will now be scaled up and figures announced weekly with regional variations included.
 
mat said:
The UK Freedom of Movement people who are organising mass meetings across the country are a registered company with one officer.

Britain First's Jayda Fransen.
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That's right. Many gatherings all over the country. This was Scottish ads, but there have been similar for London and Bradford, probably others.

 
twosips said:
feels like the drop has stopped and its flattening a bit at the moment if im reading it properly, but obviously that could change soon
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21% decrease since same day last week. The rate does appear steady from the previous week (between last Thurs and Thurs before that), where the proportion who died had reduced by 20%.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Hard to see any primary schools being allowed to open until this research is clarified. The Lancet is a highly respected source. It just shows that we don't know enough about this disease yet to make sensible decisions.
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Regarding the phasing of opening up the country;

Education is important,
but opening the pubs up is importanter.
 
We’ve had to threaten Strike Action to make sure we get our staff and passengers protections.

Before we did they sent an email saying if your train has more than the government sanctioned number on it ring us to monitor. Now they’ve received our notice to ballot they’ve all of a sudden started to implement everything the government have told them too.

I wonder how many non union business will wilfully ignore the guidelines sent to them?
 
My mum had some pain in her shoulder blade on Tuesday so we ended up calling 111, actually hoping they would send us to out of hours or something. Well they ended up sending the ambulance, which obviously set off the neighbourhood WhatsApp group into thinking we had a Covid outbreak! They did her ECG and it came back fine but said they wanted to do some bloods at the hospital. This happened once before so it was following the same pattern, bloods showed some increased levels which indicate possible heart attack but levels were very low, even lower than last time. They decided to keep her in and did the Covid swab and sent it off. Well yesterday they said all the tests were fine but they wanted to do some further tests, so they kept her in overnight again telling her they would discharge in the morning and refer to outpatients. She rang me in the morning saying they had come to her bed at 1am and moved her into another ward, they told her the covid test came back positive. She had been on that ward for 2 nights, walking around going to the toilet, touching things and there were staff freely walking around without any PPE. She is asymptomatic, they don't know if she had it already or caught it in hospital. I can't see how they will contain this thing properly if they are allowing people on wards that may already have the virus and staff are not (either by choice or because there just isn't PPE) protecting themselves, while waiting 24hrs or so for a test result.
 
Is the ONS data estimating how many people had it during that week good news or bad? Is the data only useful if you link it to hospitalizations and R0?
 
BlueAnorak said:
Great survey driven from my former workmates in Titchfield Hampshire.
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Great survey!
Apart from my previous post on the shit show of an organisation I can now add that one of the ONS workers who volunteered for it and jacked it after the first chaotic day is still receiving packing cases of tests on their doorstep daily. All missing vital alcohol wipes and dirty boxes.
 
St.Pauli support said:
Mid April German TV said mouthwash very probably won't help.

While bacteria remain outside the mucosal body cells,
viruses are binding on the body cells and go inside within minutes.
Tthey are being reproduced there and after some time leave the destroyed cell to go on spreading.

To have a positive mouthwash impact you would have to gargle nonstop...
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Can I just gargle with tanqueray number 10?
 
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mrbelfry said:
Is the ONS data estimating how many people had it during that week good news or bad? Is the data only useful if you link it to hospitalizations and R0?
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I think it is very good news. Looks like it will only take around 10 years to get herd immunity as opposed to the 23 years predicted on here yesterday. I don't know about anyone else but I have already diarised going for a beer in spring 2030.
 
If that number had it asymptomatically one/two weeks ago it is still many (10x perhaps???) the numbers who were ill enough to be hospitalised during that period when the hospital numbers were falling fast.

Let alone the numbers who died in that period.

That is good news in terms of how many likely had it untested in the previous two months. And fits with the apparent UK death rate being higher than expected.

These are only defined by a proportion of how many had it and did not die. Which this is the first UK evidence to help decide.

Someone better at maths than me can guesstimate but I suspect it would be 1% at most. Given that even of those 10% of that number in hospital the majority do NOT die.
 
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shevtheblue said:
My mum had some pain in her shoulder blade on Tuesday so we ended up calling 111, actually hoping they would send us to out of hours or something. Well they ended up sending the ambulance, which obviously set off the neighbourhood WhatsApp group into thinking we had a Covid outbreak! They did her ECG and it came back fine but said they wanted to do some bloods at the hospital. This happened once before so it was following the same pattern, bloods showed some increased levels which indicate possible heart attack but levels were very low, even lower than last time. They decided to keep her in and did the Covid swab and sent it off. Well yesterday they said all the tests were fine but they wanted to do some further tests, so they kept her in overnight again telling her they would discharge in the morning and refer to outpatients. She rang me in the morning saying they had come to her bed at 1am and moved her into another ward, they told her the covid test came back positive. She had been on that ward for 2 nights, walking around going to the toilet, touching things and there were staff freely walking around without any PPE. She is asymptomatic, they don't know if she had it already or caught it in hospital. I can't see how they will contain this thing properly if they are allowing people on wards that may already have the virus and staff are not (either by choice or because there just isn't PPE) protecting themselves, while waiting 24hrs or so for a test result.
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Hope your mum is feeling better.

It would not surprise me if the infection rate is high in hospitals. Not just because of the issues you highlighted but I read that nurses have been moved from covid wards to other wards.
 
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