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johnnytapia said:
No, this is the guidance, but essentially, they've asked for Nursery, Reception and Year 1 to go back, with the emphasis on starting with Nursery. And this has already changed from the guidance we got on Monday which included Yr6 (they've now been removed from the updated guidance). So you can see why we're feeling this is all being done a bit too haphazardly.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...or-primary-schools#frequently-asked-questions
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aye. Hopefully they will find a sensible phased solution that is safe for everyone and the kids start school again. Clarity of message isn’t this govts strong point .
 
johnnytapia said:
No, this is the guidance, but essentially, they've asked for Nursery, Reception and Year 1 to go back, with the emphasis on starting with Nursery. And this has already changed from the guidance we got on Monday which included Yr6 (they've now been removed from the updated guidance). So you can see why we're feeling this is all being done a bit too haphazardly.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...or-primary-schools#frequently-asked-questions
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Don't forget that as each day passes the situation changes and the data is reassessed. 'Tis the fog of war unfortunately. Flexibility being the key.
 
ManCityX said:
Never in my life have a seen so many grown men so upset and offended by someone ripping into The Daily Mail. You’re all acting as if it was a personal attack.

Why be so bothered? It’s a horrible little hate piece. We should be wiping our arses with it not getting worked up by someone criticising it.
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no one was defending the daily mail.
I made the point just because the daily mail are cunts we shouldn’t be saying ‘’all media are disgusting’’ .. it’s become a cliche.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
Don't forget that as each day passes the situation changes and the data is reassessed. 'Tis the fog of war unfortunately. Flexibility being the key.
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That's what's been so difficult (for everyone I know). We've been trying to plan for phased reopening of our school but the data changes and we change the plan, so many different things to try and navigate. Yep, flexibility is essential.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
Think that is obscene, most educated guesses are that it sits between 3-5%. Which is what the data in other countries is showing.
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The random hi grade laboratory antibody tests done so far indicate 10% in London and 5% over the whole country but the question is how many have had it without symptoms or generating antibodies? I think that's the angle where the Manchester Uni study is coming from.
 
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johnnytapia said:
No, this is the guidance, but essentially, they've asked for Nursery, Reception and Year 1 to go back, with the emphasis on starting with Nursery. And this has already changed from the guidance we got on Monday which included Yr6 (they've now been removed from the updated guidance). So you can see why we're feeling this is all being done a bit too haphazardly.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...or-primary-schools#frequently-asked-questions
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From that document here are two paragraphs, both from the same page (my italics):

Paragraph One:
This guide has been designed by school leaders for school leaders. It is intended to provide a step by step guide for those responsible for mainstream primary schools to prepare for extending their opening to include all pupils in reception, year 1 and year 6 from the week commencing 1 June.

Paragraph Two
Then, to support children’s early learning, you should prioritise groups of children as follows:
early years settings - 3 and 4 year olds followed by younger age groups
infant schools - nursery (where applicable) and reception
primary schools - nursery (where applicable), reception and year 1

Paragraph 1, no mention of Nursery but does mention Year 6.
Paragraph 2, no mention of Year 6 but does mention Nursery.

Crystal clear!
 
BlueHammer85 said:
for more people to ‘’cycle and walk’’

this won’t reduce traffic congestion.
Trains and tubes will be packed.

simple fact is ...London, like most cities now is way overpopulated.
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Hit the nail on the head. We have had crumbling transport infrastructure for decades under different governments. The road and rail systems across the North West are a disgrace. Overpopulation is also certainly an issue in certain areas. This crisis has shown that our systems are not resilient enough. I don't think it's a political issue. These problems in the UK started decades ago and no one has got a grip on them.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
Think that is obscene, most educated guesses are that it sits between 3-5%. Which is what the data in other countries is showing.
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I've always thought it's pretty likely a lot of people have had it or have been exposed because we don't test asymptomatic people. If 3-5% is based upon today's testable figures then its likely to be far higher in reality.

The testing in some countries is showing that when they test places like homeless shelters or carehomes (which are likely to have multiple contained cases), many test positive but only a handful have any symptoms.

I think in South Korea they were seeing 20% of positive cases came about from testing asymptomatic people.

"Iceland, which says it’s tested a higher proportion of inhabitants than any other country, found that about half those who tested positive have no symptoms of Covid-19"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...avirus-cases-may-show-no-symptom-scmp-reports
 
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