COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Vic]

I was one of them, lost my smell about the 20th march, I didn't self isolate.

Did you know it was being reported as a symptom?

 

[grunge]

Just as an FYI, we could do something like this for bikes. In South Korea down the middle of a motor way they have cycle lanes covered with solar panels for generation power and shade for cyclists.

https://www.mnn.com/green-tech/transportation/videos/south-korea-solar-bike-lane-middle-highway

Could do raised cycle paths over the middle of roads etc.

 

[Elbow beards]

Did you know it was being reported as a symptom?

I found out about 4 days later. Luckily was working from home so didn't mingle with anyone, but could have given it to the missus and little one.

 

[johnnytapia]

Just as an FYI, we could do something like this for bikes. In South Korea down the middle of a motor way they have cycle lanes covered with solar panels for generation power and shade for cyclists.

https://www.mnn.com/green-tech/transportation/videos/south-korea-solar-bike-lane-middle-highway

Could do raised cycle paths over the middle of roads etc.

Solar panels in Manchester? You'd generate about 30 pence-worth a year.

 

[johnnytapia]

I haven't cycled since I was a kid. I used to love it, the freedom, getting from A to B more quickly and the speed, pretty carefree back then. I would do it again with proper protected cycle lanes but there is no way I'd risk it on the roads as it is, although they are a bit quieter at the moment.

It's all about being confident that you're entitled to have your space on the road. That doesn't mean riding two abreast, or dawdling down the middle of the road, but it does mean, not cowering in the gutter. Get out on the bike, it's such a great thing physically and mentally.

 

[paulchapo]

It's all about being confident that you're entitled to have your space on the road. That doesn't mean riding two abreast, or dawdling down the middle of the road, but it does mean, not cowering in the gutter. Get out on the bike, it's such a great thing physically and mentally.

It would be, not that I own one yet. Too much traffic to contend with that's why I see loads cycling on pavements around here.

 

[Vic]

Sounds like they haven't bothered to tell airlines! The interviewer did try to correct O'Leary - I'd have liked to hear his reaction if he found out on air that the policy had been changed five days ago!

It's even more curious. The only official thing I can find online is the original agreement that France would be excepted. Can that be right? A phone call from Johnson to Macron produces a policy that's dumped three days later, the new policy has not been communicated in anything other than in a press conference, and only the now incorrect original policy is still on government websites (and the French Embassy's!)? https://www.gov.uk/government/news/joint-statement-between-the-uk-and-france-10-may-2020

 

[Vic]

So they have finally accepted that a loss of taste or smell is now a symptom, about 6 weeks since first reported. Surely this could have been confirm before now even as a precaution. There will be people who had these symptoms and wouldnt have self isolated.

Maybe it helps the herd immunity they want.

Just heard an explanation (radio 4) that the WHO list of symptoms was so extensive, and included things that could be symptoms of other things, that they didn't want people self-isolating unnecessarily. I'm not sure what's happened to make loss (or change) of sense of smell suddenly a better indicator symptom of Covid.

Full WHO list has been available for weeks.
"The most common symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, dry cough, and tiredness. Other symptoms that are less common and may affect some patients include aches and pains, nasal congestion, headache, conjunctivitis, sore throat, diarrhea, loss of taste or smell or a rash on skin or discoloration of fingers or toes. These symptoms are usually mild and begin gradually. Some people become infected but only have very mild symptoms."

 

[ganganvince]

It's even more curious. The only official thing I can find online is the original agreement that France would be excepted. Can that be right? A phone call from Johnson to Macron produces a policy that's dumped three days later, the new policy has not been communicated in anything other than in a press conference, and only the now incorrect original policy is still on government websites (and the French Embassy's!)? https://www.gov.uk/government/news/joint-statement-between-the-uk-and-france-10-may-2020

Allegedly the phone call was confirming current position
https://www-telegraph-co-uk.cdn.amp...s-live-uk-hotels-campsites-holiday-parks-set/

 

[Vic]

An interesting caution on falling out with others about all this (again a radio 4 interview) - "micro aggressions between people who are more or less risk averse" (citing as an instance visually impaired people who have no idea where their nearest other person is - and you'd usually offer a blind person an arm if they needed help).

 

[denislawsbackheel]

It's even more curious. The only official thing I can find online is the original agreement that France would be excepted. Can that be right? A phone call from Johnson to Macron produces a policy that's dumped three days later, the new policy has not been communicated in anything other than in a press conference, and only the now incorrect original policy is still on government websites (and the French Embassy's!)? https://www.gov.uk/government/news/joint-statement-between-the-uk-and-france-10-may-2020

https://www.ft.com/content/ddf6b198-727b-43ec-a5e4-aef8b5d8fb06
it was, as usual, Johnson talking through his arse before realising the consequences.

 

[Chippy_boy]

I found out about 4 days later. Luckily was working from home so didn't mingle with anyone, but could have given it to the missus and little one.

But I assume from your comment that you didn't?

I find this really odd. Something infectious enough to spread like wildfire across the country by merely passing people by or touching a handrail, for some bizarre reason doesn't manage to infect your wife and kids after days of very close proximity.

 

[Vic]

Allegedly the phone call was confirming current position
https://www-telegraph-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/16/travel-restrictions-live-uk-backtracks-french-quarantine-agreement/amp/?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA=#aoh=15897884311511&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/17/travel-restrictions-live-uk-hotels-campsites-holiday-parks-set/

Micro aggression! There was no "current position"! They announced a 14-day quarantine on arriving (foreign) travellers - except from France.

I'm not sure if the Telegraph is minimising the volte-face by "as had been previously suggested" as if it wasn't announced as official policy (and if you're looking for official guidance online, it still is). A bit like "not much risk of catching it in a care home" (but we only meant if you couldn't catch it from people who've got it). It's just another bit of mixed messaging - you can excuse any government for trying to keep up with a fast-moving situation, but you do wonder how much of the confusion is, if not deliberate, just incompetent. (Did Johnson ask Cummings before his cosy chat in French with Macron resulted in the French exemption?)

 

[Elbow beards]

But I assume from your comment that you didn't?

I find this really odd. Something infectious enough to spread like wildfire across the country by merely passing people by or touching a handrail, for some bizarre reason doesn't manage to infect your wife and kids after days of very close proximity.

She may have had it as well without any signs? Don't know, I may not have had it but I've never lost my smell and taste like that before. Also my wife's friends husband had it, had fever, front line worker so was tested and did have it but she never caught it even though they share a bed.

 

[Chippy_boy]

She may have had it as well without any signs? Don't know, I may not have had it but I've never lost my smell and taste like that before. Also my wife's friends husband had it, had fever, front line worker so was tested and did have it but she never caught it even though they share a bed.

I wasn't questioning you, just commenting that it's weird.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

But I assume from your comment that you didn't?

I find this really odd. Something infectious enough to spread like wildfire across the country by merely passing people by or touching a handrail, for some bizarre reason doesn't manage to infect your wife and kids after days of very close proximity.

@Rammy Blue has had a similar encounter, I believe.

 

[Elbow beards]

I wasn't questioning you, just commenting that it's weird.

No worries, it is a weird one though, some people get it without so much as a cough, other drop dead.

 

[Vic]

But I assume from your comment that you didn't?

I find this really odd. Something infectious enough to spread like wildfire across the country by merely passing people by or touching a handrail, for some bizarre reason doesn't manage to infect your wife and kids after days of very close proximity.

Or he didn't have it as losing sense of smell could have another cause. But in any case if the virus was that easy to pass on from someone who isn't coughing and spluttering, we'd nearly all have it. One of the big information / research gaps has been on the risks of transmission from mere proximity, or how long the virus survives on different surfaces, etc etc

 

[Marvin]

Moderna issued a positive Phase I trial result

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Moderna issued a positive Phase I trial result

What does that phase entail, mate?