UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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Shirley said:
Have a horrible feeling EUFA have something that City are not aware of. To be hacked once is poor but twice is piss poor.
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nope it’s very simple what we’re being accused of , we just have to prove in court the sponsorship deals / the books haven’t been Tampered with , the club firmly believe they have all the evidence to support this.
 
domalino said:
For Speigel broke the Ronaldo rape story. They published the existence of the NDA and they interviewed his accuser before football leaks, and then they exposed and published the questionaire his lawyers made him fill out where he said he raped her.

So to say the didnt fixate on it is completely wrong. Without them, there is no story.
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You are right. Der Spiegel did break the Ronaldo rape story. I suppose what I am trying to say is that the anti-City story seemed to get much more traction than almost anything else leaked. I think there were also stories about Pogba's salary and Wayne Rooney's image rights but they seemed to just be 24-hour wonders. The UK media couldn't wait to get their hooks into City.
It wasn't Footy Leaks but another story that received little coverage was when Jose Mourinho got a suspended jail sentence for tax evasion. The offences happened when he was manager at Real Madrid and the sentence happened while he was in charge at United. Two of the world's biggest clubs but very little coverage. The UK press covered it for a couple of days then stopped. Now it has been airbrushed out of history.
 
Proy said:
Both agree we should be okay, just for different reasons.

PB is suggesting we have a tonne of shit on them and that certain high ranking officials are well in the shit.

I like PB, but I can't see what he's seeing on this one

In fact it seems a little tin foil hat.
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We’ve been the whipping boys for years when it comes to facing charges. Fair enough, we might have something on them, but as serious as their officials being led off in handcuffs? Can’t see it myself.
 
Newman Noggs said:
Nor me. And any suggestion that we have any control over the point at which someone is led away in handcuffs is pie in the sky stuff. Even if that is using artistic license and is merely a picturesque way of suggesting that someone will be charged with a criminal offence, we would have no control whatsoever of the timing. Indeed, if we sat on evidence of a crime until it suited us, the police would probably say it's too stale to investigate.

It's a lovely idea but wishful thinking in my view.
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My view too. I’m not digging out the well respected posters who’ve promulgated the notion on here based on what they’ve been told, because they’re clearly posting in good faith, but us having a secret dossier of wrong doings that will bring our enemies to their knees when released? I just think it sounds like wishful thinking at best and complete bollocks at worst. Manna for the masses.
 
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nmc said:
I’m really not sure UEFA can introduce new info at CAS. The hearing is based on the allegations already made. We can defend ourselves but I doubt CAS would allow UEFA to add anything not already shared.
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Presumably the normal rules of disclosure apply, so there shouldn’t be any surprises? Or does CAS operate differently when it comes to legal process?
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Presumably the normal rules of disclosure apply, so there shouldn’t be any surprises? Or does CAS operate differently when it comes to legal process?
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The text below is from the CAS rules and regulations, either party can introduce a new claim in their written submissions but once the other party has made a response then no further claims can be made without the consent of both parties.

R44.1 Written Submissions
The proceedings before the Panel comprise written submissions and, in principle, an oral hearing. Upon receipt of the file and if necessary, the President of the Panel shall issue directions in connection with the written submissions. As a general rule, there shall be one statement of claim, one response and, if the circumstances so require, one reply and one second response. The parties may, in the statement of claim and in the response, raise claims not contained in the request for arbitration and in the answer to the request. Thereafter, no party may raise any new claim without the consent of the other party.

Together with their written submissions, the parties shall produce all written evidence upon which they intend to rely. After the exchange of the written submissions, the parties shall not be authorized to produce further written evidence, except by mutual agreement, or if the Panel so permits, on the basis of exceptional circumstances.

In their written submissions, the parties shall list the name(s) of any witnesses, whom they intend to call, including a brief summary of their expected testimony, and the name(s) of any experts, stating their area of expertise, and shall state any other evidentiary measure which they request. Any witness statements shall be filed together with the parties’ submissions, unless the President of the Panel decides otherwise. If a counterclaim and/or jurisdictional objection is filed, the CAS Court Office shall fix a time limit for the Claimant to file an answer to the counterclaim and/or jurisdictional objection.
 
The Colonel said:
You seem to be putting a lot of weight on the content of the hacked emails as interpreted in a newspaper. Just to be clear what do you read into what was in them as bravado at best and lead you to think that the cause of this is City’s own doing?
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Bravado, in my interpretation here, was about our lack of awareness of what we were putting in writing at a very senior level.

That stuff should have been done in phone calls etc, especially since it seems our IT firewall was still under license from the Swales era.
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
My view too. I’m not digging out the well respected posters who’ve promulgated the notion on here based on what they’ve been told, because they’re clearly posting in good faith, but us having a secret dossier of wrong doings that will bring our enemies to their knees when released? I just think it sounds like wishful thinking at best and complete bollocks at worst. Manna for the masses.
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You know after what I’ve seen over the last few years I don’t believe the Dippers haven’t broken the rules, it’s in the DNA of FSG to circumvent the rules & they’ve taken advantage of any faux outrage if accused. They have the traditional media & social media eating out of the palms of their hands.

we know they hacked & promoted for systematically cheating.

we know FSG have done it in baseball.

we know they organised & encouraged the attack on our coach to take advantage.

they organised a hate campaign against Sterling.

they have organised alliances with other clubs & written & met with UEFA & EPL to punish us.

they are allowed special interviews with perspective CEOs of EPL.

Now I don’t know what PB has but I’ve seen with my own eyes;

Extra ordinary refereeing decisions in UEFA & EPL.

Extra ordinary VAR decisions in EPL.

questionable relationships with Roma.

incredible energy levels with a small squad.

Board members on every committee.

Questionable financial reporting (FFP)

I just can’t believe there isn’t illegal activities that we know about in this cess-pit of football.

so I’ll say it again I want a shit storm of shame blowing over every condescending Dipper that I’ve had to listen to. I want them back in their box.
 
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