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I did my second run following the Maffetone method today. 14k, average heart rate 125bps, which is just three above my target. It was a longer run time wise, and although my legs were tired at the end, I still felt relatively fresh.
 
Stuuuuuu said:
If it's a model of shoe that you know works for you, then great. I know my favourite shoe so I just order it online all the time. www.sportsshoes.com often have the best prices but I also check on Google shopping.
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Agree here, but for your first visit or changing shoes you really need to try them on. I tried around 5 different pairs on (after my gait was tested) and they all felt slightly off aside from one pair. These were Brooks - same brand as my previous pair (although completely different model - these were a pair I bought on a whim in TK Maxx thinking I might take up running..which 2 years later I properly did). I personally like Brooks.

This aerobic zone - pretty much 'chatting' pace then? It's tough as I'm constantly thinking about my strava time during the run (I don't go hell for leather but like to hover around the 4:50 per KM zone).
 
Been running a fair bit lately but my last run I felt like my shins were splitting in half, is this common?
 
inchy14 said:
5k today as part of the club challenge, ran in 23.15. But windy which didn’t help but happy enough, out on bike tomorrow, planning a 50 miler.
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Nice one son.

I’ve found a flat long road with a big hill.
I’m gonna try run my fastest 5k incorporating this helpful route tomorrow.
 
mike1923 said:
Been running a fair bit lately but my last run I felt like my shins were splitting in half, is this common?
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yes. Very common. Bit of rest, put your legs up on couch with ice packs/frozen peas on shins and do some light jogs when easing back. Works for me.
 
Finally forced myself to take a day off today. Just feels wrong and I feel guilty now that I’m getting stuck into a few beers and wine, lol.

Back at it tomorrow.
 
Paladin said:
I did my second run following the Maffetone method today. 14k, average heart rate 125bps, which is just three above my target. It was a longer run time wise, and although my legs were tired at the end, I still felt relatively fresh.
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I presume being at 125bps your running pace is a lot slower than usual. Does this make the running pace feel uncomfortable?
 
franksinatra said:
I presume being at 125bps your running pace is a lot slower than usual. Does this make the running pace feel uncomfortable?
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It's a bit weird, having to run pretty slow, to maintain a low heart rate, but strangely still very enjoyable. I wouldn't say it was uncomfortable, but it takes a while to get used to it. When running at this pace, I find I can run with my mouth closed, breathing entirely through my mouth. I can't do that at my previous pace.

Following advice on here from @Stuuuuuu and others, I thought I had already slowed down to a 'conversational pace', but often found myself out of breath, and unable to converse if I had a running partner. I got home, then walked up and down our street for five minutes, getting my breath back.

This was the second time out using this method. It has added around 2 minutes per mile, but I'm not fussed about that. The run itself was more enjoyable because I wasn't feeling exhausted or out of breath at all, right through to the end. From the little I've read about it so far, my times will improve as I become more accustomed to running in the aerobic zone.

So I'm going to stick with it for a while, and see where it takes me. I'm 58, so my running is totally for fitness and enjoyment. Run times are a very low priority.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Been reading a bit about Tabata Intervals/Tabata Sprints (seen them called both).

This is a really good article that outlines the positives, the things to avoid, and negatives, and some example workouts for both running and resistance with Tabata Intervals.
https://yurielkaim.com/tabata-intervals/
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Flys in the face of the "conversational pace" theory that's for sure.

What are everyone else's opinion on this type of intense training? @Stuuuuuu @BlueHammer85 @Paladin @inchy14 etc etc.
 
I haven't been out for a run in about a year, due to a combination of work, 2 young children and laziness. Went for a quick 20 minutes last Sunday and did about 6 miles today in about an hour. Getting the buzz back to go more regularly and felt pretty comfortable today.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Flys in the face of the "conversational pace" theory that's for sure.

What are everyone else's opinion on this type of intense training? @Stuuuuuu @BlueHammer85 @Paladin @inchy14 etc etc.
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Slow pace training is ideal for endurance runners and building longer distance runs up.

The sprints are more about fat loss. Not particularly for runners, more it being another aspect of fat loss training to go with resistance training. You can do it on a spin bike, rowing machine or running.

I would also say to build up sprinting strength first before doing this. So rather than 20s sprint with 10s rest, take some weeks to build your sprint strength by having 2 or 3mins rest/walk/slow cycle between sprints. Then introduce the Tabatas.
 
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Psychedelic Casual said:
Slow pace training is ideal for endurance runners and building longer distance runs up.

The sprints are more about fat loss. Not particularly for runners, more it being another aspect of fat loss training to go with resistance training. You can do it on a spin bike, rowing machine or running.
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Indeed mate but a few of the lads on this thread advocate long slow runs for fat loss.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Flys in the face of the "conversational pace" theory that's for sure.

What are everyone else's opinion on this type of intense training? @Stuuuuuu @BlueHammer85 @Paladin @inchy14 etc etc.
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I'm no student of running. I've been running for two years. I started late in life, using it as an aide to fitness and weight control. For me, it has to be enjoyable, or I would probably not be able to sustain it.

What I can say is my last two slow runs have been enjoyable. I hate running up the hill near my house. It exhausts me, and I reluctantly do it knowing that it is mainly downhill or level thereafter. I'm going to stick with the Maffetone method for a few weeks at least.
 
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