UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Rochdale Blue]

Oh, that is a classic. Wonderful Mr. WENGER. "There is more joy in heaven over one sinner that repenteth......"

That's not repentance, it's his hypocritical stance about a situation that doesn't affect his running of one of those parasite clubs that he alluded to anymore.

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

117 M34. This case is being held in Camera. This means that no one is allowed in the hearing, except the judges and the club's lawyer's, and officials.

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

Rochdale Blue. Mr Wenger has always been hypocritical when it suits him. He got worse towards th end of his stay at Arsenal.

All you have to do is listen to him, when ever we beat his team. They was always one excuse after another. He was never beaten fair and square.

 

[SilverFox2]

Yes. Largely because it was his mate that sent it tits up. Lost a lot of respect for him after that. Lost any that remained after his flip flop over our case.

Would you say that change was due to personal financial need forced upon him by those he is employed by eg Sam Lee and Athletic?
There again Martin S. at DM goes against the grain despite anti City culture with his employers.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Rochdale Blue. Mr Wenger has always been hypocritical when it suits him. He got worse towards th end of his stay at Arsenal.

All you have to do is listen to him, when ever we beat his team. They was always one excuse after another. He was never beaten fair and square.

He reminds me of every French politician I hear waffling on about how they will all really miss us in Europe.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Oh, but it is.

Wenger!?
Multi faced French twat.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

In other matters I am still baffled as to why the press in this country seem unwilling or unable to systematically analyse FFP and it's rules and regulations to a degree where they can adequately and fairly comment on the stich up we have had to endure from UEFA. Perhaps they could then understand and submit articles which impartially look at both sides of the coin when discussing the alleged rule breach. We have not witnessed a single article which even remotely considers that we may be innocent of the accusations from UEFA following those dogshit articles from Der Spiegel. A publication with a chip firmly on both shoulders and a bug up its arse.

I wonder what their attitude would be should the European gangsters including the plutocratic hierarchy of UEFA and Der Krauts were going after their beloved scouse vermin or Noddys knobheads. The little Englanders would be dancing a xenophobic jig of outrage in the back gardens of press suburbia no doubt.

Do they wonder why our fanbase despises 90% of them. Fucking shills and click mongers the lot of them without an ounce of integrity.

Good points, there is one however, Martin Samuels worked out the stitch up that is FFP
as soon as it was introduced.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

In other matters I am still baffled as to why the press in this country seem unwilling or unable to systematically analyse FFP and it's rules and regulations to a degree where they can adequately and fairly comment on the stich up we have had to endure from UEFA. Perhaps they could then understand and submit articles which impartially look at both sides of the coin when discussing the alleged rule breach. We have not witnessed a single article which even remotely considers that we may be innocent of the accusations from UEFA following those dogshit articles from Der Spiegel. A publication with a chip firmly on both shoulders and a bug up its arse.

I wonder what their attitude would be should the European gangsters including the plutocratic hierarchy of UEFA and Der Krauts were going after their beloved scouse vermin or Noddys knobheads. The little Englanders would be dancing a xenophobic jig of outrage in the back gardens of press suburbia no doubt.

Do they wonder why our fanbase despises 90% of them. Fucking shills and click mongers the lot of them without an ounce of integrity.

Your last sentence answers your first.....!

 

[laserblue]

Remember that. They edited the dive comment out of the highlights it was so ridiculous. My personal favourite McPointy expression which he uses regularly is “he should of went” makes me cringe.

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[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Wenger!?
Multi faced French twat.

As Martin Samuel said: “He wasn’t a professor, far less an economic intellect — just a football manager with a grudge”.

 

[SilverFox2]

That's not repentance, it's his hypocritical stance about a situation that doesn't affect his running of one of those parasite clubs that he alluded to anymore.

Lets be fair its only like a lawyer or barrister skewing evidence to suit their current case client.
City are paying our top man in Court a reported 25k a day to ensure our case gets explained in a legally (UEFA legal that is) way probably to prevent UEFA using him to their advantage.
Our friend W. is now on a different "case" so chooses his words to maximise his current objectives, which may actually be contrary to his personal feelings.

 

[M18CTID]

Guess who this is?
I am in favour of opening things up to more investment, which FFP does not allow for,’ he told L’Equipe. ‘The clubs that dominate Europe today are those that were built and made investments during an era when FFP did not exist. FFP prevents emerging clubs who want to invest from doing so. That is not normal.

‘These rules have fixed a hierarchy, the big historical clubs are bigger and bigger and, obviously, they are all fighting for FFP to be scrupulously applied to others so that competitors can’t come through.
‘Controlling club management rigorously, yes, verifying where funds are coming from, yes, but we need to encourage people to invest in football. FFP must become more flexible and facilitate investment. We must control clubs in their way of doing things but not tell them how to do it. If the club believes that it is not taking any risks with its balance by buying a player for £150million, what is the problem?’

I’d love to see one of these shithouse journalists do their job for once and ask Wenger why he has done a full 180 and feels this is now acceptable when for years he criticised City so much, going as far as to coin the phrase “financial doping” in relation to us in particular. I’ve no issue with him wanting to protect Arsenal’s interests at the time and having a bit of a moan when we started signing his players but to use such inflammatory language was nothing short of disgraceful. Not to mention blatantly hypocritical as he managed the very definition of a “financially doped” club in Monaco long before City came to the party, plus of course there was the Danny Fiszman investment in Arsenal which Wenger was a beneficiary of in his early years as manager there.

However, something else has been bugging me for a while regarding this. I find it astonishing how he was allowed to continue those attacks on our club when you consider who Arsenal’s main sponsor is and their close links to our owner. I’d have thought that at some point Emirates would’ve had a word with the Arsenal board and told them to tell Wenger to stop biting the hand that feeds him, stop being a sanctimonious ****, and to wind his fucking neck in.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I’d love to see one of these shithouse journalists do their job for once and ask Wenger why he has done a full 180 and feels this is now acceptable when for years he criticised City so much, going as far as to coin the phrase “financial doping” in relation to us in particular. I’ve no issue with him wanting to protect Arsenal’s interests at the time and having a bit of a moan when we started signing his players but to use such inflammatory language was nothing short of disgraceful. Not to mention blatantly hypocritical as he managed the very definition of a “financially doped” club in Monaco long before City came to the party, plus of course there was the Danny Fiszman investment in Arsenal which Wenger was a beneficiary of in his early years as manager there.

However, something else has been bugging me for a while regarding this. I find it astonishing how he was allowed to continue those attacks on our club when you consider who Arsenal’s main sponsor is and their close links to our owner. I’d have thought that at some point Emirates would’ve had a word with the Arsenal board and told them to tell Wenger to stop biting the hand that feeds him, stop being a sanctimonious ****, and to wind his fucking neck in.

Wenger will say anything if the money is right. He is Mr self-interest and always has been.

 

[NorthamptonBlue]

In other matters I am still baffled as to why the press in this country seem unwilling or unable to systematically analyse FFP and it's rules and regulations to a degree where they can adequately and fairly comment on the stich up we have had to endure from UEFA.

Fucking shills and click mongers the lot of them without an ounce of integrity.



You don’t sound baffled to me. I think you have worked it out just fine.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Would you say that change was due to personal financial need forced upon him by those he is employed by eg Sam Lee and Athletic?
There again Martin S. at DM goes against the grain despite anti City culture with his employers.

I've said before that The Guardian seems to be acting under instructions. But I don't think it's the case with FCUM. They do seem very keen to take the Human Rights Watch/MGeehan line on the UAE however and that's a line that's looking increasingly compromised as they seem to take a very different attitude to Qatari human rights infractions, which are every bit as bad as the UAE's.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Lets be fair its only like a lawyer or barrister skewing evidence to suit their current case client.
City are paying our top man in Court a reported 25k a day to ensure our case gets explained in a legally (UEFA legal that is) way probably to prevent UEFA using him to their advantage.
Our friend W. is now on a different "case" so chooses his words to maximise his current objectives, which may actually be contrary to his personal feelings.

I don't believe that for one moment. He was ready to see us stitched up, even though it now seems obvious he knew all along the harm ffp has caused in its present form. He's is not to be trusted in any way, shape or form and I find it impossible to believe companies in the high street could act in the same way in a bid to destroy a rival, no matter how their lawyers and barristers skew it.

 

[Delboy352]

I don't believe that for one moment. He was ready to see us stitched up, even though it now seems obvious he knew all along the harm ffp has caused in its present form. He's is not to be trusted in any way, shape or form and I find it impossible to believe companies in the high street could act in the same way in a bid to destroy a rival, no matter how their lawyers and barristers skew it.

Maybe not Companies in the High St, but in another sector it happened before... https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2003/sep/14/features.magazine87
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4699582.stm

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

I’d love to see one of these shithouse journalists do their job for once and ask Wenger why he has done a full 180 and feels this is now acceptable when for years he criticised City so much, going as far as to coin the phrase “financial doping” in relation to us in particular. I’ve no issue with him wanting to protect Arsenal’s interests at the time and having a bit of a moan when we started signing his players but to use such inflammatory language was nothing short of disgraceful. Not to mention blatantly hypocritical as he managed the very definition of a “financially doped” club in Monaco long before City came to the party, plus of course there was the Danny Fiszman investment in Arsenal which Wenger was a beneficiary of in his early years as manager there.

However, something else has been bugging me for a while regarding this. I find it astonishing how he was allowed to continue those attacks on our club when you consider who Arsenal’s main sponsor is and their close links to our owner. I’d have thought that at some point Emirates would’ve had a word with the Arsenal board and told them to tell Wenger to stop biting the hand that feeds him, stop being a sanctimonious ****, and to wind his fucking neck in.

Agree with all that. It applies to Arsenal post-Wenger as well with Arsenal apparently one of the drivers behind the Premier League 8 seeking to ensure our ban is not suspended.

The Emirates pump in so much money into European football with their other sponsorships as well - Real Madrid, AC Milan, Benfica etc. So many conflicting interests!

Meanwhile, whilst the relationship between Dubai and Abu Dhabi is not always a bed of roses, it's reported yet again Abu Dhabi supporting Dubai through the corona crisis. Mubadala involved as well.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-e...ugh-state-fund-mubadala-sources-idUKKBN22R1UR


As an aside, I wonder where Nissan are on all this? One of UEFA's main champions league sponsors and one of City's main sponsors as well.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I don't believe that for one moment. He was ready to see us stitched up, even though it now seems obvious he knew all along the harm ffp has caused in its present form. He's is not to be trusted in any way, shape or form and I find it impossible to believe companies in the high street could act in the same way in a bid to destroy a rival, no matter how their lawyers and barristers skew it.

Wenger's Arsenal paymasters were part of the US-owned, G-14 cartel, who don't want us gatecrashing their cosy little party.

Whereas FIFA and the UEFA secretariat seem to be much more neutral if not more on our side.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Wenger's Arsenal paymasters were part of the US-owned, G-14 cartel, who don't want us gatecrashing their cosy little party.

Whereas FIFA and the UEFA secretariat seem to be much more neutral if not more on our side.

The US business model generally is built on debt driven acquisition. I see it in the industry I sell into as the large US owned groups have huge debt whereas the European ones generally have little or no debt.