Alexandole Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

If you hadn't already realised it, it's obvious from his Liaison Committee appearance that BoJo knows fcuk all about anything going on in Government. He was totally inarticulate and clueless.
He's a fun time Charlie whose limitations have been exposed by this Corona virus crisis.
The country is in effect now being run by Dominic Cummings (Chief Spad) and his army of Spads in the various Government Departments.
The most telling moment for me was when BoJo said he'd been told not to announce any more targets ( or words to that effect).
" Told not to"???
You're the PM for fcuks sake man!
 
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journolud said:
Has Johnson lived up to your expectations? How has your view of him changed over the last month or so, if at all? Why do you feel the need to bring Corbyn into it now?
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always thought he was a loon, the virus has challenged him beyond anything he could expected,or us. i've said before i wanted Brexit done, he's perfect for that.
 
Bill said:
always thought he was a loon, the virus has challenged him beyond anything he could expected,or us. i've said before i wanted Brexit done, he's perfect for that.
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You perfectly embody this whole national embarrassment, Bill, and why the rest of the world either laughs at us or feels pity.

Brexit turned it all into a football match. It doesn’t matter if your team is shit, as long as you can get one over on your rival.
 
Bill said:
always thought he was a loon, the virus has challenged him beyond anything he could expected,or us. i've said before i wanted Brexit done, he's perfect for that.
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Fair enough you’re half right, he is a loon. Brexit fans won’t agree I know but Brexit isn’t done by a long chalk.
 
Len Rum said:
If you hadn't already realised it, it's obvious from his Liaison Committee appearance that BoJo knows fcuk all about anything going on in Government. He was totally inarticulate and clueless.
He's a fun time Charlie whose limitations have been exposed by this Corona virus crisis.
The country is in effect now being run by Dominic Cummings (Chief Spad) and his army of Spads in the various Government Departments.
The most telling moment for me was when BoJo said he'd been told not to announce any more targets ( or words to that effect).
" Told not to"???
You're the PM for fcuks sake man!
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The best quote about him was in that article yesterday " Johnson always wanted to be PM. He always wanted to say he had been PM. Its the being PM bit in between he can't handle "
 
robbieh said:
My god we've currently got the most incompetent pm anyone can remember and people are banging on about Foot who for better or worse never had the job.
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People do that coz they no longer have Corbyn as their personal Bogeyman and all they really have left is Brexit......
 
journolud said:
I’m fine with it. I know we’ve “left” but the finer details are yet to be agreed
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The economic and social damage has barely begun. Everyone knows in their hearts they are coming now. Nobody believes a word this government has said about what has happened, so they’d have to be idiots to believe what they’ve said about what is going to happen.
 
OMG - BBC 10 O'clock News getting itself pulled tonite - complete bias as they are only showing questions critical of the PM. No questions in support for balance.

Spoiler - there were none.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
The economic and social damage has barely begun. Everyone knows in their hearts they are coming now. Nobody believes a word this government has said about what has happened, so they’d have to be idiots to believe what they’ve said about what is going to happen.
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Here’s the problem as I see it. There is no problem with the govt printing money to get us through this, because everyone else is doing the same, and everyone knows why we’re all printing money for all we’re worth.

There will come a point in the summer however when nations start to trade their way out of difficulty. And once they do that, our ability to carry on printing money just the same pretty much ends, because if we are just printing money when nobody else is, that’s when you get hyper inflation. So when everyone else - who is leaving lockdown earlier than we are - stop printing money, we really need to stop too. When that happens, and the government can’t prop the economy up any further with freshly printed cash, we will have to trade our way out of trouble like everyone else.

Our ability to do that is limited for two reasons. One, we have chosen to walk away from unlimited access to the largest trading bloc in the world. Two, we have made our economy so heavily dependent on the services sector that we will be hurt by what is now inevitable, namely that a lot of manufacturers will be cutting back on costs that involve reliance on the services sector. (Eg sending executives on business trips will be replaced by more zoom meetings, so less business for hotels, restaurants etc).

Now the civil service isn’t stupid. They know we face a massiveLy difficult period ahead, and we’re going to need trade deals. Far more, in fact, than the EU and the USA will do. So we are negotiating from positions of clear weakness, we know that and they know that. To them, a trade deal with the UK will be welcome, but not essential. We, by contrast, are pretty much fucked without FTAs. So I suspect we will end up doing a deal with the EU, for instance, rather than leave on WTO terms, but it won’t be pretty.

TLDR: they’ve got us by the balls. The long term damage to our economy is structural.
 
Chris in London said:
Here’s the problem as I see it. There is no problem with the govt printing money to get us through this, because everyone else is doing the same, and everyone knows why we’re all printing money for all we’re worth.

There will come a point in the summer however when nations start to trade their way out of difficulty. And once they do that, our ability to carry on printing money just the same pretty much ends, because if we are just printing money when nobody else is, that’s when you get hyper inflation. So when everyone else - who is leaving lockdown earlier than we are - stop printing money, we really need to stop too. When that happens, and the government can’t prop the economy up any further with freshly printed cash, we will have to trade our way out of trouble like everyone else.

Our ability to do that is limited for two reasons. One, we have chosen to walk away from unlimited access to the largest trading bloc in the world. Two, we have made our economy so heavily dependent on the services sector that we will be hurt by what is now inevitable, namely that a lot of manufacturers will be cutting back on costs that involve reliance on the services sector. (Eg sending executives on business trips will be replaced by more zoom meetings, so less business for hotels, restaurants etc).

Now the civil service isn’t stupid. They know we face a massiveLy difficult period ahead, and we’re going to need trade deals. Far more, in fact, than the EU and the USA will do. So we are negotiating from positions of clear weakness, we know that and they know that. To them, a trade deal with the UK will be welcome, but not essential. We, by contrast, are pretty much fucked without FTAs. So I suspect we will end up doing a deal with the EU, for instance, rather than leave on WTO terms, but it won’t be pretty.

TLDR: they’ve got us by the balls. The long term damage to our economy is structural.
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Worrying times.
Trump is America First - so we deal with them from a position of inferiority.
EU countries similarly have us over a barrel.
China think that we are crazy for leaving the EU family.
Who then, can we realistically do deals with? India? probably.
Africa? ok.
Australia is more or less owned by China.
Russia? Their terms.
South America? Difficult.
Middle east? - the amoral arms trade.
No, I don't see a good outcome from brexit at all.
 
Grassland Blue said:
Worrying times.
Trump is America First - so we deal with them from a position of inferiority.
EU countries similarly have us over a barrel.
China think that we are crazy for leaving the EU family.
Who then, can we realistically do deals with? India? probably.
Africa? ok.
Australia is more or less owned by China.
Russia? Their terms.
South America? Difficult.
Middle east? - the amoral arms trade.
No, I don't see a good outcome from brexit at all.
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This was always the case. Just the pandemic has weakened an already shit hand.
 
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