No because you premise was based on bookies odds which already take home advantage into account for fucks sake. How do you not realise that?????Once again you aren’t looking deeply enough into it. Even if fans were the overwhelming reason for home advantage, which they aren’t, a headline figure of a 46% win ration is hardly overwhelming proof of the power of playing at home. But once you factor in my earlier point that when teams are relatively evenly matched the win ratio for home teams drops to 29% then the unimportance of fans in influencing the outcome becomes even more apparent.
He most certainly is not my pal, nothing against him though. But if you are going to type shite, utter shite, such as home advantage makes more or less no difference, then expect to be advised it is shite. The truth isn’t juvenile fucking prattleRefer you to the answer I gave your pal. Have you anything sensible to contribute or just juvenile prattle like him ?
You don’t get it. When a team is, in the example I used 1.50 or less then mere home advantage has only played a small part in working out that price, a much more determining factor is the perceived ability of each teamNo because you premise was based on bookies odds which already take home advantage into account for fucks sake. How do you not realise that.
You are twice as likely to win a home match, than an away match across 20 years of PL football taking into account every team plays every other team home and away. Twice as likely is a hugely overwhelming proof.
We will see, from the remaining 90 games, if that carries true without fans.
Over the lifetime of the premier league the home team is 77% more likely to win than the away team. Given that every team plays every other team home and away every season that’s extremely mathematically conclusive that playing at home is a huge advantage. Now if it isn’t crowd support that gives this advantage I am wondering what you think are the factors that cause this disparity? Is it familiarity of surroundings, maybe players are so very tired after travelling, or maybe as I said earlier, your point (at least this time) is fucking shiteOnce again you aren’t looking deeply enough into it. Even if fans were the overwhelming reason for home advantage, which they aren’t, a headline figure of a 46% win ration is hardly overwhelming proof of the power of playing at home. But once you factor in my earlier point that when teams are relatively evenly matched the win ratio for home teams drops to 29% then the unimportance of fans in influencing the outcome becomes even more apparent.
You’ve got the wrong end of the stick. I said fans make more or less no difference. Home advantage makes some difference although not as much as people think as illustrated in the stats I presented to swp.He most certainly is not my pal, nothing against him though. But if you are going to type shite, utter shite, such as home advantage makes more or less no difference, then expect to be advised it is shite. The truth isn’t juvenile fucking prattle
Oh my fucking Christ. It’s not about a team that’s on for circa 100 points a season. Only three time have teams scored more than 95 points so of course City were short in every fucking game.You don’t get it. When a team is, in the example I used 1.50 or less then mere home advantage has only played a small part in working out that price, a much more determining factor is the perceived ability of each team
For example in our all conquering title run last season if were we at home to an average / mug team our price would be roughly 1.10 to 1.15 ie an 85 to 90% chance of winning. Away from home it’d be between say 1.15 and 1.30 at a stretch ie 77 to 87 %. So there’s not a lot of difference between home and away prices.
You’re not looking beyond the obvious headline figure. A crucial question is how many times did the home team beat the away team not because they were at home but because they were the better team. Refer you to my stats re City last season for an example of this.Over the lifetime of the premier league the home team is 77% more likely to win than the away team. Given that every team plays every other team home and away every season that’s extremely mathematically conclusive that playing at home is a huge advantage. Now if it isn’t crowd support that gives this advantage I am wondering what you think are the factors that cause this disparity? Is it familiarity of surroundings, maybe players are so very tired after travelling, or maybe as I said earlier, your point (at least this time) is fucking shite
But it patently does.Home advantage makes some difference although not as much as people think as illustrated in the stats I presented to swp.
But every team plays each other team home and away so that’s taken out of the equation when looking at 20 plus years of data.You’re not looking beyond the obvious headline figure. A crucial question is how many times did the home team beat the away team not because they were at home but because they were the better team. Refer you to my stats re City last season for an example of this.
And you base that on nothing more than your hunch.I said fans make more or less no difference
The stats are clear, home advantage means you are 77% more likely to win as the home team than as the away team. That’s after about 28 years of the premier league, something like 11,000 games. There’s a reason for that. Or is it just a bloody big coincidence? Try tossing a coin 11,000 times and come back to me with the resultsYou’ve got the wrong end of the stick. I said fans make more or less no difference. Home advantage makes some difference although not as much as people think as illustrated in the stats I presented to swp.
It’s time to let go mate, and to feel similar amounts of sympathy and ignoringAnd you base that on nothing more than your hunch.
As I have already said, we (and everyone else) played everyone else as often at home as we did away, and indeed vice fucking versa. There’s more than one muppet called Boris, clearlyYou’re not looking beyond the obvious headline figure. A crucial question is how many times did the home team beat the away team not because they were at home but because they were the better team. Refer you to my stats re City last season for an example of this.
Of course you discount them because the discrepancy in price is largely because one team is markedly superior to the other.Oh my fucking Christ. It’s not about a team that’s on for circa 100 points a season. Only three time have teams scored more than 95 points so of course City were short in every fucking game.
Odds reflect everything including home advantage. Spurs vs Arsenal as an example has the home team favourite in each game for the last five years. You can’t therefore discount games where the bookies make one team a heavy favourite. Bookies odds are completely useless for this discussion BECAUSE they already factor in home advantage.
You’ve already seen that on average, a home team is nearly twice as likely to win a game then an away team (46% vs 26%). Bookies odds don’t come into it.
Good shout. He’s looking at the stats and had it spoon fed to him and he still doesn’t get it. Time to move on.It’s time to let go mate, and to feel similar amounts of sympathy and ignoring
You seem to have as pitiful a grasp of maths and statistical knowledge as Swales demonstrated while at CityAs I have already said, we (and everyone else) played everyone else as often at home as we did away, and indeed vice fucking versa. There’s more than one muppet called Boris, clearly
You don’t have the intellect to look more deeply into a very basic simple headline stat.Good shout. He’s looking at the stats and had it spoon fed to him and he still doesn’t get it. Time to move on
Hehe, we will be able to say it back as they’ll all be empty..snigger
I’ll let the reader decide, I’ve wasted enough time on you.You don’t have the intellect to look more deeply into a very basic simple headline stat.
And once again the simplistic nature of your thought process stifles sensible debate.