Liverpool thread 2019/20

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Dicko69 said:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AxAB&usg=AOvVaw2tYMFN77pKd9l9w-xtljy4&ampcf=1

Admittedly 6or7 years old now, I'd love you to defend your clubs actions tho
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You’ve answered your own point.

They got a lot wrong early but they’ve repeatedly learnt from those mistakes over the last 4 years or so when they changed their whole structure/ operation of business and now are working with/ for the better of the immediate community.

We can sit here all day mate and throw up articles and criticise our respective clubs, as unsavoury as that is. But if you want to go back to the past, you also need to acknowledge the good they are doing now having learnt from those early mistakes in many aspects.
 
KloppiteE said:
Sorry, I may have misread that question .....

Are you asking if it’s shameful, when it comes form a Liverpudlian, that the European Cup Final is held up as the biggest game in football down to being involved in a tragedy at one?

Apologies if I read that wrong.
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I doubt you misread it, but you certainly appear to have misapprehended it.
 
KloppiteE said:
You’ve answered your own point.

They got a lot wrong early but they’ve repeatedly learnt from those mistakes over the last 4 years or so when they changed their whole structure/ operation of business and now are working with/ for the better of the immediate community.

We can sit here all day mate and throw up articles and criticise our respective clubs, as unsavoury as that is. But if you want to go back to the past, you also need to acknowledge the good they are doing now having learnt from those early mistakes in many aspects.
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I can acknowledge that very recently your club is aiming to improve the area, but for 30 years they destroyed a community.
I can also acknowledge your club eventually did the right thing by not furloughing, it doesn't make them any less of a bunch of ****s
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Thing is, unlike most other posters in Bluemoon (at least on the face of it) I love Liverpool and I love scousers. I’ve got a load of very positive links to the city, and I genuinely think it’s one of the great metropolises in the Kingdom. I’ve got some truly great memories of some of the times of my life I’ve spent in Liverpool.

So I’m not consumed by hate when I say this: the level of denial from your club, and you lot, as supporters, around Heysel, is utterly reprehensible. Heysel was caused by the egregious truculence of Liverpool supporters at a European Cup Final, proceedings to which LFC supporters today hold up as the apogee of the football experience. If nothing else, that behaviour was unspeakably rude and disrespectful, irrespective of criminal liability.

Do you think that is something to be ashamed of? I would if that was City fans.

Until this causation fact is acknowledged in earnest by apparatchiks of LFC, and their acolytes, then I’m not sure this wound is ever going to start healing, which is something you appear to be advocating.

Any suggestions?
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I couldn't have put it better myself (mainly cause I have absolutely no idea what you are on about)............... ;-)
 
KloppiteE said:
And there you have it.

The ‘woe is me/ self pity City’ rhetoric.

Which all makes it impossible to have a rational discussion. The same way we’ve seen over the past 24 hours people refusing to countenance all the factors that contributed to that faithful night in Brussels.(The ‘fit for purpose’ ground like is still jaw dropping.).

It really is best left.
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Sorry to take issue with you again, however you signed up to 're-educate' us on events in Brussels.

If we wouldn't understand how hard done to the city of Liverpool is because we aren't from there then inform us or

It's a bit rich to engage with us and then try to draw a line under topics because we don't agree with your rhetoric.

Not entirely sure what you were looking to achieve to be honest (especially starting off on such a subject)?
 
horlock_was_super said:
It’s also what the District Judge accused Steven Patrick Morrissey of when he was giving evidence. Ever since one of my mates at work has tried to get in his yearly performance assessment meeting!
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To be 100% accurate, Judge Weeks accused dear old Moz of being, "Devious, truculent and unreliable". I'm sure @jimharri could elaborate further...
 
johnnytapia said:
To be 100% accurate, Judge Weeks accused dear old Moz of being, "Devious, truculent and unreliable". I'm sure @jimharri could elaborate further...
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KloppiteE said:
I’d just leave it mate.

A tawdry back and forth on the ills of respective fanbases, which is all those type of posts you responded to ever devolve into, does nobody any good.
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Fair point but to prevent any further tawdry back and forth I can't think of any football match involving City that have resulted in murder, assaults, manslaughter or any death what so ever? Can you say that about your club? No you can't so yes let's leave it there.
 
Greggery Peccary said:
I don’t think anybody commenting has tried to excuse or mitigate anything that went on that day. There were other factors involved, no doubt, but the overwhelming majority of the blame in the stadium was down to the Liverpool fans. That’s taken as read by every fan I know at least. Plus Liverpool and Juventus have worked for a long time to restore the relationship between the clubs, the Rush deal was a perfect example of that. The transfer was agreed early but Liverpool got to keep him until the end of the season. All parties working together and not two clubs who a couple of years previously were in a much different situation. It’s not as nuanced and as comprehensive a reply as it needs, but I think it shows that nobody was under any illusions about what happened that evening. There have been plenty of fan club type pilgrimages there too building bridges. It’s not perfect but nothing could be sadly.
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Didn't the Juventus fans turn their backs to the pitch when some form of "relationship restoration" was taking place?
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I must confess, that Judgment was my introduction to that word.
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Morrissey "replied" to the judgement via "Sorrow Will Come to You in the End", a rather clumsy attempt to right the perceived wrongs of the case. His record label dropped the song from the UK release for fear of libel. It was however released on the US version.
 
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