George Floyd murder | Clashes between US police and protestors

[bluethrunthru]

A mere 5 years..........words that should be taken on board more today than ever

 

[SWP's back]

A mere 5 years..........words that should be taken on board more today than ever

yep.

 

[Quad]

A mere 5 years..........words that should be taken on board more today than ever

her sister was in the food bank where I help out Today

 

[BlueHammer85]

Absolute dickheads starting trouble in London on our Police. Some are there just for inciting violence.

 

[stonerblue]

Absolute dickheads starting trouble in London on our Police. Some are there just for inciting violence.

nowt on the bbc as yet

 

[mexico1970]

Absolute dickheads starting trouble in London on our Police. Some are there just for inciting violence.

Police took a knee and still got attacked, fuck Trump and fuck Boris they shouted.

 

[BlueHammer85]

nowt on the bbc as yet

All over Sky News. Infuriating

 

[bluethrunthru]

her sister was in the food bank where I help out Today

Helping or after beans?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Nothing to see here. Just another Republican being blatantly and unashamedly racist.

 

[Bigga]

The problem with AOC, great as she is, is that she's becoming a female Bernie.

Which pretty much makes her unelectable because every corporate interest in the country will paint her as a communist for the next 10 years and she'll lose vast swathes of centrist support.

Women are already considered more radical than men with identical policies, and she's got to overcome sexism as well.

So the only way she's going to be a Democratic candidate for President one day is if she very visibly shifts towards the centre, or if the country moves left as a whole after 8+ years of Dem control of legislative and executive branches and she no longer looks extreme.

Worth remembering though, she's literally 30. She's only been in government for 1 year.

Actually, the issue is the country doesn't know it's true political position. It needs to know so there can be a REAL choice.

Right now, The GOP are known as right and the Dems are known as left. This is not quite true as the Dems are moderate right.

"Centre" is actually where Bernard sanders wanted to take the country, which might actually be centre right in its truest form. The US have a problem with political spin; the truth and lies.

Once the billionaire owners let journalists do their jobs without interference, the country would most likely find its true balance.

 

[KS55]

Actually, the issue is the country doesn't know it's true political position. It needs to know so there can be a REAL choice.

Right now, The GOP are known as right and the Dems are known as left. This is not quite true as the Dems are moderate right.

"Centre" is actually where Bernard sanders wanted to take the country, which might actually be centre right in its truest form. The US have a problem with political spin; the truth and lies.

Once the billionaire owners let journalists do their jobs without interference, the country would most likely find its true balance.

Looked at from a British POV, the US looks irredeemably wedded to the right.

 

[BluechesterCity]

Absolute dickheads starting trouble in London on our Police. Some are there just for inciting violence.

As if the police don't have a difficult enough job already.

 

[Bigga]

Looked at from a British POV, the US looks irredeemably wedded to the right.

Cos it is!

In the US, they believe they have two polarising positions when it's a matter of degrees!

 

[Mayor West]

Does anyone on here know why saying all lives matter could cause such a negative reaction? I seemingly rather naively said it and got a load of shit for it.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Does anyone on here know why saying all lives matter could cause such a negative reaction? I seemingly rather naively said it and got a load of shit for it.

because it’s black lives that are rightly being highlighted at the moment - police brutality on blacks especially in America needs to stop.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Further demonstration planned in London on Saturday - every shop/store owner should empty there contents and heavily board up their windows

 

[JRockBlues]

Does anyone on here know why saying all lives matter could cause such a negative reaction? I seemingly rather naively said it and got a load of shit for it.

It's all about the implicit too. Hopefully this explains it for you and other curious people.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02691728.2018.1483879?journalCode=tsep20

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Does anyone on here know why saying all lives matter could cause such a negative reaction? I seemingly rather naively said it and got a load of shit for it.

Because "All lives matter" is a trope used as a rejoinder. It's perceived as a separate circle, not a Venn diagram.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

Because "All lives matter" is a trope used as a rejoinder. It's perceived as a separate circle, not a Venn diagram.

Damn I was going to say that

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

The problem with AOC, great as she is, is that she's becoming a female Bernie.

Which pretty much makes her unelectable because every corporate interest in the country will paint her as a communist for the next 10 years and she'll lose vast swathes of centrist support.

Women are already considered more radical than men with identical policies, and she's got to overcome sexism as well.

So the only way she's going to be a Democratic candidate for President one day is if she very visibly shifts towards the centre, or if the country moves left as a whole after 8+ years of Dem control of legislative and executive branches and she no longer looks extreme.

Worth remembering though, she's literally 30. She's only been in government for 1 year.

Oh, I don't think she's running for President soon (per your point on her age/experience) -- my point is I suspect she will become the leading face of the Progressive movement as Sanders exits the stage per the OPs implied question.