Liverpool thread 2019/20

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Greggery Peccary said:
I think we’ll definitely bring two or three in. Not arsed one bit who they are, if Klopp wants them, that’s good enough for me. That Werner looks half decent, but does too much yapping in the press for my liking. Don’t see too many big fees happening this summer though.
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He’d fit right in at Littlewoods, then!
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
If you are champions and you don’t strengthen things go stale. We’ve seen that in the past when City have had poor transfer windows after winning the league and finished miles off the season after.
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Now hearing Werner is getting a £12 million signing on fee.
So maybe Liverpool just couldn't compete with Chelsea financially on this one.
 
FootballSense said:
`This Means More`

The McDonald’s Kop "means more". What Liverpool do "means more".

We are told that most of what Liverpool does apparently has a deeper meaning than the achievements of others. We are constantly drip fed through the media and LFC`s marketing that somehow their feelings are more intense and stronger than those of fans at every other club - Everton, City, Utd, Ajax, Borussia Dortmund, Napoli, Galatasaray, Boca Juniors and so on. No matter how much you feel for your club, it means more for Liverpool fans.

Just as it means more, according to today`s club official statement, for their relegated Women`s team. This side were bottom of the league, had only won one game the entire season and had demonstrated that they were simply not good enough. Yet the headlines run with their "disappointment" and the inference that had the season resumed they would have embarked upon a climb up the table to avoid the drop. Apparently because they were part of the original members of the new Women`s league back in their day this was relevant to performances in 2020.

It means more and it is this superior attitude and arrogance that permeates the entire club. Their followers in the media are little better.

Turning to Liverpool`s friends in the press, much of what The Guardian`s writer, Jonathan Liew, has said in his piece about sports brand insincerity, which applies to many clubs and organisations, is accurate -

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/b...uch-for-corporate-sports-on-brand-insincerity

Liew is intelligent and a gifted writer when the mood takes him. It makes it all the more surprising, or maybe not, that there is no mention in his article, just like the absence of the 35th Anniversary of Heysel this week, of the high profile league leaders, Champions League winners and Club World Cup holders, Liverpool, about their taking of the knee. Here we had a glaring example that he could have better used to convey some of his valid points. With LFC`s sponsors logo clearly visible, a photographer who just happened to be on hand to capture the far from spontaneous gesture, an empty stadium, and players and staff all posed in evenly fixed positions around the centre circle, the supportive picture was quickly distributed to media outlets.

Was this yet another act of `This Means More` self promotion, one worthy of critical yet fair observation especially given that it was an English paper, written for a English audience and this was an `English` club, even though there are elements who describe themselves as "Scouse not English". This is the club that gave wide and much publicised backing to Suárez. This is not mentioned though. Instead it is a foreign club Barca that are singled out for criticism, not the untouchables in red.

How do we explain why, on a national platform, The Guardian`s writer eschewed the opportunity to make really meaningful comments relating to the Premier League and somehow avoided using the profile of the team at the top? His comments could have resonated with a much wider audience had he done so.

Many more should question why, `This Means More` ?

(I acknowledge, with thanks, the comments of others in the media thread).
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Liverpool. #This means morons.
 
It's boring now. Forget them. They are not relevant in the new world. In the new world our coach can take off like in Back to the Future.
 
Its funny their women's team - promised a One Club, One Team mentality like you see at the bigger women's clubs - Us, Chelsea, Arsenal.

Yet they play and train at Tranmere, the new shiny LFC training ground has no pitches for the women and they're generally totally disregarded. No wonder all their stars f**k'd off elsewhere a few seasons ago. Hope the mens dippers follow them down the hole. God knows they deserve it.

This Means More*

*Unless you're in our women's team or a Juventus fan
 
Jimbo Jones said:
Now hearing Werner is getting a £12 million signing on fee.
So maybe Liverpool just couldn't compete with Chelsea financially on this one.
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I thought Liverpool had big big money to splash? Record profits and all that plus never forget the Coutinho money? If you don’t spend you fall behind, we know it, the rags know it. Time for that team who only won leagues when you could pass the ball back to goalie to find out.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
I thought Liverpool had big big money to splash? Record profits and all that plus never forget the Coutinho money? If you don’t spend you fall behind, we know it, the rags know it. Time for that team who only won leagues when you could pass the ball back to goalie to find out.
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If Werner is getting upward of 200k a week and Salah,VVD,Mane etc are on nearer 150\180 it could rapidly destabilise a happy camp.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
I thought Liverpool had big big money to splash? Record profits and all that plus never forget the Coutinho money? If you don’t spend you fall behind, we know it, the rags know it. Time for that team who only won leagues when you could pass the ball back to goalie to find out.
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Don't forget about the Neil Mellor money...........
 
KloppiteE said:
Yeah in context. The signs were definitely there.

They'd just come off a down month with dipped performances that ended with the unbeaten league record going at Watford. But as every single player had a collective off-day that day in a woeful outing, of which a brilliantly up-for-it Watford took full advantage, you just put that down to 'one of them' that happens knowing how virtually impossible it is to go a full season unbeaten in England. But then they follow that with a second straight defeat for the first time in Christ knows when at Chelsea the Cup, when a really strong side where equally woeful, and then you start to get concerned about the recent dip in form.

But to come out against Bournemouth, fall behind, at home, to ramp up the pressure even more, with all the nerves that naturally surround any title run-in, much-less one when you've been waiting 3-decades for the end prize, and dig in, scrap for everything, and dig out a massive 2-1 win, all off the back of 3 defeats from the previous 4 games, was a real testament to the ridiculous mentality within that group and a refusal to not get beat. Lesser sides would have crumbled and dropped more points. But, whilst still not being anywhere near their best, they dug in, sorted it out, and ground out another mammoth win. Having witnessed my side pick up the title 6 times in person, I can remember well that you get NO extra points for style. Getting over the line is ALL that counts at this stage of the run-in. It's rarely free-flowing from here on in. You just make sure you do enough for the points and move on to the next game.

Sign of a proper title side and a sign things were swinging back the other way.

Which they then followed up with an absolutely superb display against Madrid that, albeit falling short in the end result, was a real pride night in an absolutely fantastic game of football, from both sides, which on any other day L'pool win 4/5 without Oblak having an absolute Worldie in the Madrid goal, But you can't legislate for a goalie mistake in extra-time, and when that happens and the away goal advantage swings with minimum time to get that back, Atléti took full advantage and progressed. Fair play to them but you couldn't have been prouder of L'pool on the night as they really returned to style.

So yeah, in context, things certainly appeared to be righting themselves after the mini-blip through February.
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"off the back of 3 defeats from the previous 4 games, was a real testament to the ridiculous mentality within that group and a refusal to not get beat."

I'll try again as I think I had a post deleted? How does does that work then, the bold bit above? Three defeats commented on and forgotten by the end of a sentence. Utter tripe the lot of it.
 
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