UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Whilst our Silver Lake money would normally help us remain challengers for the league outside of no European football, I would wager you now points deductions in the Premier League to further hamstring us.

I have said previously, they would try to do a Saracens on us and even try to strip titles.

I’ve had (as I suspect most Blues have) the Saracens shtick levelled at me several times by neutrals, as if the failure to comply with a wages cap common to all clubs and designed to promote equality, were in any way comparable to our (alleged) failure to comply with a rule designed to actively prevent 90% of clubs from being able to spend as much on wages and transfer fees as the other 10% and designed to promote inequality. Pisses me right off!
 
Funny how we're getting more negative the closer we are to the start of the case. We we're all bullish a while back riding on the positivity of PB's and THs' posts but they are now lurching towards the reality of us failing or at least not getting the full exoneration we crave and so we're all following suit :o). It may be we have to start as a club all over again and when we win again it'll be like a red hot poker shoved up the arses of our detractors. I went nearly 40 years without seeing us winning anything worthwhile. If I have to stomach a mini-famine again to get back on track then bring it on. The club will be here and we'll be here. CTID.

I'm debating with posters who believe a halfway house would be acceptable, without envisaging the wider ramifications of their acceptance.

My confidence is exactly where it was when our chairman in a private conversation assured that person we would not lose.
 
Funny how we're getting more negative the closer we are to the start of the case. We we're all bullish a while back riding on the positivity of PB's and THs' posts but they are now lurching towards the reality of us failing or at least not getting the full exoneration we crave and so we're all following suit :o). It may be we have to start as a club all over again and when we win again it'll be like a red hot poker shoved up the arses of our detractors. I went nearly 40 years without seeing us winning anything worthwhile. If I have to stomach a mini-famine again to get back on track then bring it on. The club will be here and we'll be here. CTID.

Great sentiment CP and hopefully we will succeed at CAS and we will continue to be successful.

The issue is the that should we lose at CAS, the vipers of our media togther with the G14 twats especially rags/ dippers will use that to push us further and harder than anything which we faced during the " barren years " to try and build up their own corrupt empires and keep a serious challenger at bay.
 
Well, to be fair, if you're referring to the poll above, personally, I answered it on the basis of what I expect to happen. As invited to do so by the heading.

No mate, just actual postings of blues who would think a reduced punishment would be acceptable.

That is a guilty verdict and, if people think the press have been bad up to this point, it would be open season on us to be taken apart.
 
Anything less and we would still be facing Premier League sanctions and all that entails.

You really think the other 19 clubs would sit on their hands if we got a one year ban instead of two?

Guilty would be guilty, regardless of a reduced sentence.

People need to understand the gravity of this case, it is all or nothing.

City would be sent into the wilderness for years by a guilty verdict, putting an official stamp on deligitimising every trophy we have won.

That would certainly be in the interim, as we got to the highest courts in the land.

The damage would already been done though.

Ha. No mate. It just grinds my gears when I see posters suggesting they would accept a reduced ban to a year.

That's a verdict of guilty. We are not guilty.

If we are found guilty, it will start little fires elsewhere.

I don't see why people can't see that?

I think you've misinterpreted.

I'm not saying a reduced ban would be ideal, I'm just not buying into the bluster that we're going to win this.

And that's not a slight on you, I can see why the club would be trying to project a confident outlook behind the scenes. Being quietly confident and choosing our moments to be direct and speak up when required (Khaldoon Vs Tebas, for example) but I'm just not convinced.

Like you've said, it's all or nothing on our part and we won't want to settle but, ultimately, it might well be out of our hands.
 
The problem with fighting further ie under Swiss Law (and obviously I know very little about that) is that City would have to argue first that there were good grounds for an injunction preventing the ban in 2020/21 (and 2021/22). This must be unlikely after CAS has assessed the case - a Swiss Court bound to think UEFA have good grounds for the ban. So that leaves a long legal battle probably taking over 18 months meaning City would miss 2 seasons of CL anyway. In turn this makes the Swiss legal case only into a financial battle for compensation. So whilst they may go for that the damage on the footballing side would well and truly be done.

Whilst looking to overturn UEFA’s decision in a Swiss Court may then be a waste of time, does the same apply to mounting a legal challenge to FFP, and would we be bound to mount such a challenge only in Switzerland, or would we take it straight to the ECJ?
 
I think you've misinterpreted.

I'm not saying a reduced ban would be ideal, I'm just not buying into the bluster that we're going to win this.

And that's not a slight on you, I can see why the club would be trying to project a confident outlook behind the scenes. Being quietly confident and choosing our moments to be direct and speak up when required (Khaldoon Vs Tebas, for example) but I'm just not convinced.

Like you've said, it's all or nothing on our part and we won't want to settle but, ultimately, it might well be out of our hands.
My thoughts exactly
 
Funny how we're getting more negative the closer we are to the start of the case. We we're all bullish a while back riding on the positivity of PB's and THs' posts but they are now lurching towards the reality of us failing or at least not getting the full exoneration we crave and so we're all following suit :o). It may be we have to start as a club all over again and when we win again it'll be like a red hot poker shoved up the arses of our detractors. I went nearly 40 years without seeing us winning anything worthwhile. If I have to stomach a mini-famine again to get back on track then bring it on. The club will be here and we'll be here. CTID.
That's ok if you've got a few years left in the tank mate.
But if the needle's in the red part of the gauge it's not a good prospect.
 
Anything less and we would still be facing Premier League sanctions and all that entails.

You really think the other 19 clubs would sit on their hands if we got a one year ban instead of two?

Guilty would be guilty, regardless of a reduced sentence.

People need to understand the gravity of this case, it is all or nothing.

City would be sent into the wilderness for years by a guilty verdict, putting an official stamp on deligitimising every trophy we have won.

That would certainly be in the interim, as we got to the highest courts in the land.

The damage would already been done though.

*Gulp*
 
No mate, just actual postings of blues who would think a reduced punishment would be acceptable.

That is a guilty verdict and, if people think the press have been bad up to this point, it would be open season on us to be taken apart.

Completely agree this is D-day for us!
 
Whilst our Silver Lake money would normally help us remain challengers for the league outside of no European football, I would wager you now points deductions in the Premier League to further hamstring us.

I have said previously, they would try to do a Saracens on us and even try to strip titles.

I don’t think they have the stomach for that fight
I think personally they gave a two year ban hoping we accept a one year ban
Then uefa can pretend they clipped our wings and rags and dippers can get back to making money in champions league and hope we fall behind a bit

If the ban stands i can see a lot of shit start flying about certain clubs
Dippers and PSG for a start
 
Looks like they're already setting out the narrative that we're still guilty even if we prevail at CAS. Any victory would be down to UEFA "caving in" rather than us being innocent.

it’s the ‘provided UEFA don’t cave’ line that interests me.

If you know what’s going on inside UEFA why would you be thinking that way unless there was some discussion within UEFA about the possibility that they might cave? The sense I get is that this is exactly what they are talking about and someone who doesn’t want them to cave has had a word with a receptive ear in the press.
 
I think you've misinterpreted.

I'm not saying a reduced ban would be ideal, I'm just not buying into the bluster that we're going to win this.

And that's not a slight on you, I can see why the club would be trying to project a confident outlook behind the scenes. Being quietly confident and choosing our moments to be direct and speak up when required (Khaldoon Vs Tebas, for example) but I'm just not convinced.

Like you've said, it's all or nothing on our part and we won't want to settle but, ultimately, it might well be out of our hands.

Sorry mate, thought had said a reduction by a year would be possibly acceptable you?

I was responding to that and others with a similar perspective.

It can't be acceptable for the reasons I have outlined.

Agree with the need for City to project positivity but Khaldoon wasn't doing it for me and had no need to do likewise for the people in the room at the time.
 
it’s the ‘provided UEFA don’t cave’ line that interests me.

If you know what’s going on inside UEFA why would you be thinking that way unless there was some discussion within UEFA about the possibility that they might cave? The sense I get is that this is exactly what they are talking about and someone who doesn’t want them to cave has had a word with a receptive ear in the press.
Someone like.....for instance.......hypothetically speaking.......Rick parry???

I will wait for a tariq panja tweet to confirm
 
it’s the ‘provided UEFA don’t cave’ line that interests me.

If you know what’s going on inside UEFA why would you be thinking that way unless there was some discussion within UEFA about the possibility that they might cave? The sense I get is that this is exactly what they are talking about and someone who doesn’t want them to cave has had a word with a receptive ear in the press.

There is no obvious reason why UEFA should 'cave in' at this point. The worst that can happen for them is that CAS rules in our favour. Why would they not see what the outcome is rather than dropping all sanctions against us now? It makes no sense.
 
I'm debating with posters who believe a halfway house would be acceptable, without envisaging the wider ramifications of their acceptance.

My confidence is exactly where it was when our chairman in a private conversation assured that person we would not lose.
 
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