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[Fordyboy46]

Gone With The Wind now banned. Do they honestly think that by banning films like this it will mean that slavery never happened. Why not ban all WW2 films as we would never want people to know what happened to the Jews.
Also how is it ok to pull down a statue in Bristol but when Gandi's statute is vandalised is is in the press that it is a disgrace and the Indian govt want an apology.

Will we ban all the films that have Black people in calling each other the n word then?.

 

[SWP's back]

And as immoral now as it was then, despite them always having their god/gods on their side.

Yeah I also think the vast majority of all wars were immoral by 21st Century moral standards.

 

[Ban-jani]

I went to Lostock School in Stretford and we were taught about the brutal slave trade. I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t know that the British Empire was brutal. The British people also did many amazing things during these periods.

Bloody Sunday could be taught for what it was (an atrocity) as long as there is balance and IRA (and their Protestant equivalents) are shown to be the murderers they are, rather than the romanticised rewriting of history that has taken place since the end of the troubles. The lessons would need to include Tony Blair only writing letters of comfort for murderers on ones side and prosecutions only targeting one side.

Hear hear.

 

[SWP's back]

Gone With The Wind now banned. Do they honestly think that by banning films like this it will mean that slavery never happened. Why not ban all WW2 films as we would never want people to know what happened to the Jews.
Also how is it ok to pull down a statue in Bristol but when Gandi's statute is vandalised is is in the press that it is a disgrace and the Indian govt want an apology.

Banned by whom?

 

[SWP's back]

I'm not even sure Rhodesia is a country..

It was a country when it was named after him which was GDM’s point.

Unlike Rhodes the island that was not named after him.

This has to be a Clarkie.

 

[SWP's back]

Will we ban all the films that have Black people in calling each other the n word then?.

You’re accepting his premise that it’s been banned then?

 

[Bigga]

We’ll never let you forget!
Give us back our spuds, ye bastards.
I find the location of this in Dublin perfect.

It is at the Docklands leading to the Jeannie Johnson Emigration Famine Ship.
This is at the Famine museum.

Just to support your point Bigga, no matter how big a **** the offending statue was during his lifetime if it can be housed at a suitable memorial/museum that actually tells the true story including the history of the statue being erected and removed and why, then I see that itself as educational.
If the same investment was put into the preserving of the real history as there was at the time of erecting a now inappropriate statue, more lessons would be learned for future generations than merely airbrushing the statue off our/your streets.

These are quite emotional to look at.

I would think to myself 'I never want us to go back there' if that was near me. It's striking and informative about a terrible time in history.

And people want the history of oppression to be left alone?!

Fooking hell, people!

 

[urban genie]

Went for my first wander into town since lockdown started and had a good walk lamenting all those closed boozers I frequent most weeks.

Anyway wandering past the cathedral I saw the Ganghi statue hidden away at the back, think it may be safe where it is ;-)

 

[stonerblue]

Do you include emmeline pankhurst in that or Florence nightingale? They both have statues. I think Alan Turing has one as well

they are part of our history. But no let’s just erase that because left wing nut jobs don’t like our history or anything British

by all means put the slave trader ones in museums, but the list is getting ridiculous now

THe Alan Turing statue was paid for by the public after a well known left wing nut job started a campaign for its erection. At the bottom of the statue it say's, amongst other things, ''A victim of prejudice''

 

[jonah62]

I went to Lostock School in Stretford and we were taught about the brutal slave trade. I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t know that the British Empire was brutal. The British people also did many amazing things during these periods.

Bloody Sunday could be taught for what it was (an atrocity) as long as there is balance and IRA (and their Protestant equivalents) are shown to be the murderers they are, rather than the romanticised rewriting of history that has taken place since the end of the troubles. The lessons would need to include Tony Blair only writing letters of comfort for murderers on ones side and prosecutions only targeting one side.

I also went to Lostock (74 until 78)
I had very close contact with the “ montezooma” delivered by Peter Shaw, the PE teacher, and cained by that ex red twat, Warren Bradley the headmaster

 

[Ban-jani]

I'm not even sure Rhodesia is a country..

What’s now called Zimbabwe.

 

[stonerblue]

It would be better if these people go live in a country with no history or history like ours. It's an absolute disgrace what this country is becoming and it's only going to create more divide.

''These people'' and 'create more divide'' in the one post?
Physician, heal thyself.

 

[Ban-jani]

THe Alan Turing statue was paid for by the public after a well known left wing nut job started a campaign for its erection. At the bottom of the statue it say's, amongst other things, ''A victim of prejudice''

Arguably the second most important Briton of WW2.

 

[richardtheref]

Banned by whom?

Been banned by all American networks & it is thought we will now follow.

Also, I may be a bit pedantic but I did notice at the Cecil Rhodes protest that about a 3rd of the placards could not even spell his name correctly. There were a number saying Roads and one with Rowds. If you are going to protest at least make sure your signage is against the correct individual.

Also I saw last night that Facebook closed down hundreds of accounts of people who claimed to be skinheads. A ban that included Neville Staples and The Specials. Is this not a form of bigotry

 

[SWP's back]

Been banned by all American networks & it is thought we will now follow.

No, it’s been pulled by HBO from their streaming service. No one has banned it.

 

[SWP's back]

Also I saw last night that Facebook closed down hundreds of accounts of people who claimed to be skinheads. A ban that included Neville Staples and The Specials. Is this not a form of bigotry

And I saw a reply to that showing that it was made up bollocks and that reply was posted in this thread. Stop believing everything you read.

 

[Bigga]

Being a non driver, I'd like to know if this a Black driver's experience or just a driver's experience...?

 

[stonerblue]

That has been discredited as a myth, it was the master craftsmen of the time.

Yep. posted links for this pages back.

 

[Blue_eyes]

I cant believe some of the things that are being called for now. How many people on here think that Nelsons statue is there because of his views on the abolition of slavery? He defeated a very real and powerful enemy of our nation in a battle that possibly saved this country from oppression and invasion,a worthy fight.That,I suspect is why he is honoured in such a way,I am begginning to think there are plenty of people living in this country who would rather we had lost.Except of course,they probably would not be alive today to hold that view, if not for that great man.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

And I saw a reply to that showing that it was made up bollocks and that reply was posted in this thread. Stop believing everything you read.

Now that's a quandary now I've read it.