Little Britain's shite and always was but if they start banning or no platforming genuinely good comedy programmes because of some fucking snowflakes, it will be a pretty grim indictment of modern society.
whats your problem ,bloody sunday was a great songI must resist.
I must resist.
You are correct that history should be objectively told and be impartial.
Bloody Sunday is one incident akin to George Floyd being one incident, that highlighted the partiality of the law enforcement that was on the ground in NI.
It took the families decades for the state supposedly upholding/enforcing the law to acknowledge them.
There is a lot happened in the decades after the event. Things escalated and worsened as a result of the event and the validity of the families grievances got wrapped up in a while debate greater than the facts, similar to what is happening in here now on a George Floyd thread.
So if you want a truth and reconciliation commission or something of the sort your going to be delving back a lot further than the events of Bloody Sunday and what was institutional discrimination that lead to the civil rights movement and certainly wasn’t resolved after the event by having the army on the streets seen as an occupying force by half the community.
Even in America the army have come out and said the will not do that on their own people.
So yes I’m all for the exact truth being told but traditionally your government resisted that, as it was an uncomfortable truth that would not go down well in the Unionist community and in my view would not support the setting of the border in the first place, depending on how far back your truth commission would be willing to look.
As you can see I haven’t really thought about it much, and I’m more interested now in what kind of a fuck up your lot have in mind for Northern Ireland going forward. (Brexit anyone?)
There. We’ve really drifted now from the George Floyd thread to Irish Politics to Brexit thread with slavery and a few other things thrown in, in a very short space of time.
The grieving families of the Bloody Sunday victims faced similar deflections over the course of decades.
Everytime Shilton tweets on society and politics I grow to like Maradona more for some reason
You Too can feck off.whats your problem ,bloody sunday was a great song
I just posted a link you CAN LITERALLY FUCKING on that shows he's not been removed.
One or two sketches are funny but it’s not exactly Phoenix Nights.
The majority of the racist parts are taking the piss out of the ignorance of racists, rather than the victim.
It’s like Al Murray’s act, it’s taking the piss out of a little Englander landlord character.
Comedy often brings different groups together.
Are you suggesting that a full size goalkeeper should be able to outjump an Argentinian midget, even if the midget is also allowed to use his hand, if he hides it in his perm?When you're pretty much the single reason why England went out of two world cups you'd think he'd pipe down.
Exactly, it clearly demonstrates the futility of it all. I would wager (without having any facts in front of me) that racism and racist acts haven't been iradicated by changing the name of a street to that of a prolific civil rights campaigner.
This country isn't perfect, none are. It remains, however, the main country that almost every immigrant and refuge appear determined to reach no matter what the cost or risk, in spite of many passing through numerous safe countries they could settle in, the UK is their number one choice. We must be doing something right.
I can only speak for myself but from memory, many of the sketches I've seen have nothing to do with racism or anti-racism, and even less to do with comedy.
It's just dressing up as a character for the sake of it and it baffles me how anyone can take offence at that.
Weird some are spending more time fixating on antifa than wanting to stop racism.
There’s one where Walliams is a racist manager at the airport, he spot checks all brown people coming in and even extends it to his own staff.
There’s a scene where he’s interviewing “Taj” and he’s being racist, asking him where he’s from and Taj (Lucas) says “Bradford”.
It’s taking the piss out of the bigoted views of the manager, not Taj.
Another one is an ex cop who’s turned driving instructor, he goes into cop mode telling his student they’ll do a role play. He then pretends he’s pulled his student over and is grilling him on speeding, at the end he says “now on ya way you ***** bastard”, but the student is white.
Again, it’s taking the piss out of the ex cop, being ingrained in stupid racist views that he can’t shake off.
The one that could be offensive is “ting tong” the mail order bride, but again, I think it’s taking the piss out of the guy ordering the bride. The fact they’ve called the character ting tong could be offensive but it’s a joke at how ridiculous it is.
They’re stereotyping British ignorance in the whole show, that’s the point.
believe an incorrect post on the internet then make up hypothetical nonsense.Will we ban all the films that have Black people in calling each other the n word then?.
Exactamundo''These people'' and 'create more divide'' in the one post?
Physician, heal thyself.
So showing anger at history that helped get us where we are today is futile. Celebrating those who were leaders in the fight against injustice is futile. Does that mean by extension that the protests themselves are futile, and maybe even abolishing slavery is futile, since neither of those things have eradicated "racism and racist acts" and only made racists angrier? What solutions do you propose? Or should we just ignore all this and move on assuming time will heal all wounds?
No clarkie intended.It was a country when it was named after him which was GDM’s point.
Unlike Rhodes the island that was not named after him.
This has to be a Clarkie.
I wouldn't bet on this one, tbh.
ffs, i'm confused enough as it is so wasn't gonna mention that or North/South rhodesia.What’s now called Zimbabwe.
So you'd be okay with statues of Hitler in Germany, so we could study them ?Exactly mate. The only way to learn from mistakes is to study history and try not to repeat the mistakes of the past
I must resist.
I must resist.
You are correct that history should be objectively told and be impartial.
Bloody Sunday is one incident akin to George Floyd being one incident, that highlighted the partiality of the law enforcement that was on the ground in NI.
It took the families decades for the state supposedly upholding/enforcing the law to acknowledge them.
There is a lot happened in the decades after the event. Things escalated and worsened as a result of the event and the validity of the families grievances got wrapped up in a while debate greater than the facts, similar to what is happening in here now on a George Floyd thread.
So if you want a truth and reconciliation commission or something of the sort your going to be delving back a lot further than the events of Bloody Sunday and what was institutional discrimination that lead to the civil rights movement and certainly wasn’t resolved after the event by having the army on the streets seen as an occupying force by half the community.
Even in America the army have come out and said the will not do that on their own people.
So yes I’m all for the exact truth being told but traditionally your government resisted that, as it was an uncomfortable truth that would not go down well in the Unionist community and in my view would not support the setting of the border in the first place, depending on how far back your truth commission would be willing to look.
As you can see I haven’t really thought about it much, and I’m more interested now in what kind of a fuck up your lot have in mind for Northern Ireland going forward. (Brexit anyone?)
There. We’ve really drifted now from the George Floyd thread to Irish Politics to Brexit thread with slavery and a few other things thrown in, in a very short space of time.
The grieving families of the Bloody Sunday victims faced similar deflections over the course of decades.