Liverpool (H) | Pre-Match Thread

[stonerblue]

Can we just hammer these tonight, and by hammer I mean hammer, out pass them keep them off the ball and be clinical upfront.

Why not. Stay tight at the back and unleash the middle and front lines to run them ragged.

 

[Northblue]

This is possibly the 1st irrelevant league game we've played for over 3 years. 17/18 we were chasing to 100 points until the last day, 18/19 we were holding off Liverpool until the last game, and if we had won at Chelsea there would still be something on this however far fetched and remote. Saying that, Liverpool may well have motivational issues too so with that in mind I'm not certain how this pans out and any score to us or them could be possible.

If chasing 100 points in 17/18 was relevant then surely beating these tonight and doing what we can to defend that record is relevant?

 

[kaz7]

I am avoiding sky like the plaque tonite,u doubt Americans once will be much better,last resort there is a good chine s one with English commentary that I stumbled on last week,no half time analysis,bliss

 

[kaz7]

I’m sure someone has already answered but can you tell me which channel is showing the game in the uk ?
Thanks

Sky sports

 

[kaz7]

Actually think this game will be a damp squid , we have nothing to play for in the league and the Dippers have already won it , Klopp with the prematch wind up that we have something to prove is farcical beyond belief , we have nothing to prove to Dipper F.C. , we have proved how good we are for ten years or more.
When they complete a similar trophy haul i will give Klippety some credit , as for tonight i will be surprised if anybody scores , it s a 0-0 all day long ,unless Otto and Mendy gift them a couple of goals.

They want the 100 points ,we have to help stop it and hope a couple more teams do the same

 

[stonerblue]

You are also guaranteed Raggy, dippery biased annoying punditry and commentary, even with the mute on you can see their arrogant, spitting faces. You prefer to pay for that rather than free SD buffering?

Not had buffering for over a year now on magic box.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

They want the 100 points ,we have to help stop it and hope a couple more teams do the same

Fair point , but i dont see it as a priority , sure Pep knows which players need a game and which players he needs to rest , i think he will player fringe players like Foden , Zinchenko , Garcia and utiilse the squad with the FA Cup and Champs league in his thoughts.
My dislike for the Dippers is similar to yours , and would love us to do another 5-0 on the weirdo's , but i think what Pep wants and what we crave will be different tonight , unfortunately

 

[Nellies left peg]

Pack the bench with kids and if we go more than 2 down take off all our important players, KDB, laporte bernie and dave to save the dippers launching them I to the hoardings

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Just sent a link through Corals to answer four questions on tonight’s game, last question was about cards received this season, apparently we have more than double the amount of the dippers......the tactical foul narrative is working a treat for them

 

[Blu3m00n91]

100% need to beat them. But I definitely won’t be watching on sky or any other English commentator channels. Bein sports 2 all the way and switch it on after the first 5 minutes

 

[SebastianBlue]

Unfortunately I only see a Liverpool win unless all.our players put in a peak performance. They are better than us at the moment, especially in defence and attack. The result of course isn't majorly important but it would be nice to win.

I don’t really know from where you are getting that they are better than us “at the moment”?

Here is a comparison of our last 10 matches (all comps) by match goal difference (“|” represents the league pause):

Liverpool: +1 +1 -1 +1 -3 -2 +1 -1 | 0 +4 = +1 GD (+4 since restart)
Man City: +2 +1 +1 +1 +1 -2 | +3 +5 -1 +2 = +13 GD (+9 since restart)

And that’s not even looking at chances created, goals scored, and clean sheets in that period, all of which we also best them in. And we’ve only conceded 2 more goals than Liverpool since the restart (having played two more games), which would not be true if any Everton player could manage to kick a ball remotely toward an open net. Of course, we have played two more games than them, but that actually makes the argument for our being in better form even stronger since it’s easier to gauge that from 4 games v 2 games and reflects that we have also been able to continue in more competitions than them (their season is effectively over, whilst we can still win two more trophies if everything goes well).

At worst, we are in better form based on points won v points available since the restart (75% v 66%) after playing teams with an average league position of 8th and combined season GD of 0 (only one of them outside the top 10), whilst Liverpool have played teams with an average league position of 12th and combined GD of -16 (neither in the top 10). If we average our respective GD since the restart, we also slightly edge it (+2.25 v +2).

TL;DR:
Based on performances and stats, we have been measurably *better* over the last ten matches and at least *slightly* better since the restart.

Now, that is not to say that we will definitely win today — anything could happen in this fixture. But there’s not much supporting evidence for them being better than us “at the moment” — in fact, all evidence points to the opposite.

 

[kaz7]

Just sent a link through Corals to answer four questions on tonight’s game, last question was about cards received this season, apparently we have more than double the amount of the dippers......the tactical foul narrative is working a treat for them

Robertson has one yellow maybe two,that tells a story

 

[ninjamonkey]

Funny how all the media is still trying to hype this up as best they can when neither set of fans really gives a shit about the result. It’s a meaningless game but they’ll still be a bite to it at least at the start. We’ve lost our title that should be motivation enough for us to want to prove a point that we’re still the best side in this country if no longer the most consistent and Liverpool will want to get all the records even though nobody will take them as legitimate records after what’s happened this season. Hope I’m wrong but I think they will want it a bit more than us, players and probably Pep will have staying fit for the two cups in mind. If we had a crowd I think it would be a different story entirely, the fans would demand the intensity and we would steamroll them for the first 30 minutes and hope we can actually take a few chances.

Sterling to finally have a good game against them with no crowd?

 

[kaz7]

I don’t really know from where you are getting that they are better than us “at the moment”?

Here is a comparison of our last 10 matches (all comps) by match goal difference (“|” represents the league pause):

Liverpool: +1 +1 -1 +1 -3 -2 +1 -1 | 0 +4 = +1 GD (+4 since restart)
Man City: +2 +1 +1 +1 +1 -2 | +3 +5 -1 +2 = +13 GD (+9 since restart)

And that’s not even looking at chances created, goals scored, and clean sheets in that period, all of which we also best them in. And we’ve only conceded 2 more goals than Liverpool since the restart (having played two more games), which would not be true if any Everton player could manage to kick a ball remotely toward an open net. Of course, we have played two more games than them, but that actually makes the argument for our being in better form even stronger since it’s easier to gauge that from 4 games v 2 games and reflects that we have also been able to continue in more competitions than them (their season is effectively over, whilst we can still win two more trophies if everything goes well).

At worst, we are in better form based on points won v points available since the restart (75% v 66%) after playing teams with an average league position of 8th and combined season GD of 0 (only one of them outside the top 10), whilst Liverpool have played teams with an average league position of 12th and combined GD of -16 (neither in the top 10). If we average our respective GD since the restart, we also slightly edge it (+2.25 v +2).

TL;DR:
Based on performances and stats, we have been measurably *better* over the last ten matches and at least *slightly* better since the restart.

Now, that is not to say that we will definitely win today — anything could happen in this fixture. But there’s not much supporting evidence for them being better than us “at the moment” — in fact, all evidence points to the opposite.

Will you marry me ?

 

[Zenmanc]

4 - 1 us and it's not close. They have more to lose than us in what is otherwise a meaningless game. We will be looser and our pride will be on the line. Their players are already on a beach somewhere in their heads.

Marker for next season laid.

 

[stonerblue]

I am avoiding sky like the plaque tonite,u doubt Americans once will be much better,last resort there is a good chine s one with English commentary that I stumbled on last week,no half time analysis,bliss

Just been through my box and found 8 new channels for the match. I use liveonsat for guide. Dazn, SuperSport and a few others just show 1st half highlights at half time but be careful, McMinimum and Owen both pop up on SuperSport now and again..

 

[stonerblue]

I don’t really know from where you are getting that they are better than us “at the moment”?

Here is a comparison of our last 10 matches (all comps) by match goal difference (“|” represents the league pause):

Liverpool: +1 +1 -1 +1 -3 -2 +1 -1 | 0 +4 = +1 GD (+4 since restart)
Man City: +2 +1 +1 +1 +1 -2 | +3 +5 -1 +2 = +13 GD (+9 since restart)

And that’s not even looking at chances created, goals scored, and clean sheets in that period, all of which we also best them in. And we’ve only conceded 2 more goals than Liverpool since the restart (having played two more games), which would not be true if any Everton player could manage to kick a ball remotely toward an open net. Of course, we have played two more games than them, but that actually makes the argument for our being in better form even stronger since it’s easier to gauge that from 4 games v 2 games and reflects that we have also been able to continue in more competitions than them (their season is effectively over, whilst we can still win two more trophies if everything goes well).

At worst, we are in better form based on points won v points available since the restart (75% v 66%) after playing teams with an average league position of 8th and combined season GD of 0 (only one of them outside the top 10), whilst Liverpool have played teams with an average league position of 12th and combined GD of -16 (neither in the top 10). If we average our respective GD since the restart, we also slightly edge it (+2.25 v +2).

TL;DR:
Based on performances and stats, we have been measurably *better* over the last ten matches and at least *slightly* better since the restart.

Now, that is not to say that we will definitely win today — anything could happen in this fixture. But there’s not much supporting evidence for them being better than us “at the moment” — in fact, all evidence points to the opposite.

Good work

 

[paulchapo]

I don’t really know from where you are getting that they are better than us “at the moment”?

Here is a comparison of our last 10 matches (all comps) by match goal difference (“|” represents the league pause):

Liverpool: +1 +1 -1 +1 -3 -2 +1 -1 | 0 +4 = +1 GD (+4 since restart)
Man City: +2 +1 +1 +1 +1 -2 | +3 +5 -1 +2 = +13 GD (+9 since restart)

And that’s not even looking at chances created, goals scored, and clean sheets in that period, all of which we also best them in. And we’ve only conceded 2 more goals than Liverpool since the restart (having played two more games), which would not be true if any Everton player could manage to kick a ball remotely toward an open net. Of course, we have played two more games than them, but that actually makes the argument for our being in better form even stronger since it’s easier to gauge that from 4 games v 2 games and reflects that we have also been able to continue in more competitions than them (their season is effectively over, whilst we can still win two more trophies if everything goes well).

At worst, we are in better form based on points won v points available since the restart (75% v 66%) after playing teams with an average league position of 8th and combined season GD of 0 (only one of them outside the top 10), whilst Liverpool have played teams with an average league position of 12th and combined GD of -16 (neither in the top 10). If we average our respective GD since the restart, we also slightly edge it (+2.25 v +2).

TL;DR:
Based on performances and stats, we have been measurably *better* over the last ten matches and at least *slightly* better since the restart.

Now, that is not to say that we will definitely win today — anything could happen in this fixture. But there’s not much supporting evidence for them being better than us “at the moment” — in fact, all evidence points to the opposite.

By "At the moment" I meant over the season and they are 23 point ahead of us. We are probably the more attractive team to watch but they have developed a system that is highly effective, proven by only having dropped 7 points I think so far. Their style is one we struggle with, a strong defence and fast on the break. Wolves and the rags play a similar style and it is no coincidence we have also lost home and away to both.

 

[RandomJ]

Really hope Foden starts. Want to see what he can do against a top side.

 

[big gaz]

I am avoiding sky like the plaque tonite,u doubt Americans once will be much better,last resort there is a good chine s one with English commentary that I stumbled on last week,no half time analysis,bliss

You been to the dentist today ;-)