UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Kazzydeyna]

A generation set back?
20 -30 years?
Really.
Juventus have been back a long time after a much worse scandal in 2006.

Juventus weren't owned by Muslims in the 21st century.

You believe what you want mate but if you think we could be branded cheats and be back at the top table in a couple of years I've got a bridge in London I'd like to sell you.

 

[Jeremiah]

A one year ban sets the club back a generation.
A two year ban sets the club back a generation.
All or nothing tomorrow. If modern day City is something you've grown to like pray for a victory as a defeat, any sort of defeat, would be truly catastrophic.

If you think the press coverage and treatment by the football authorities here or in Europe has been bad thus far, you ain't seen nothing like what we would have to face if a bogus charge of cheating was made to stick.

This is a true existential crisis for the club I've supported my whole life. In the very truest sense of the word.

Let's say worst case scenario happens, you really think CFG is just going to stop spending and investing in the club? A ban would hurt us for a few years, but you're overreacting to think we'd be back to City pre-CFG even with a ban.

 

[goater1985]

A one year ban sets the club back a generation.
A two year ban sets the club back a generation.
All or nothing tomorrow. If modern day City is something you've grown to like pray for a victory as a defeat, any sort of defeat, would be truly catastrophic.

If you think the press coverage and treatment by the football authorities here or in Europe has been bad thus far, you ain't seen nothing like what we would have to face if a bogus charge of cheating was made to stick.

This is a true existential crisis for the club I've supported my whole life. In the very truest sense of the word.

Ha come on, get a grip. A generation? We'd be minimum top 3 again next season

 

[Elliot houghton]

Probably a good sign tomorrow no news Tbh as we're good at keeping things Quiet unlike some.

 

[blue oli]

The last time wa


They dare not even imply they have a sniff, being so close to an actual verdict.

Most would usually speculate bullshit for weeks on end but they can't, simply because it would expose them for the blaggers they are.

They would rather say nowt and then come across all informed and opine tomorrow, offering opinion as fact.

City have played a blinder in terms of the flow of information.

Perhaps they also feel it will have more resonance and meaning for both our fans and the wider public that we all get it tomorrow hard and straight.

After calling out UEFA over leaks they can’t let anything slip even if they do know surely - not in the owners nature to be hypocritical.

 

[cleavers]

Exactly, they’re not City fans

Yes quite a few outing themselves here I think.

 

[HelloCity]

Similarly we have had 10 this year and Liverpool have had only 5. Should we come to the same conclusion refs are favouring us?

I’d imagine that City get more because we’re the most offensively dominant side in the history of English football. I’d be surprised if we we got that many if we were a Europa side.

Not sure if it’s changed this season with United having so many but Liverpool had the most ever PL penalties up until recently.

 

[oxopop]

You have to trust somebody in the end or just give up and go and sit in a corner, comforted by your own nihilism.. CAS a decent bet for fair dealing.

hope you are right.

 

[franksinatra]

A one year ban sets the club back a generation.
A two year ban sets the club back a generation.
All or nothing tomorrow. If modern day City is something you've grown to like pray for a victory as a defeat, any sort of defeat, would be truly catastrophic.

If you think the press coverage and treatment by the football authorities here or in Europe has been bad thus far, you ain't seen nothing like what we would have to face if a bogus charge of cheating was made to stick.

This is a true existential crisis for the club I've supported my whole life. In the very truest sense of the word.

The reputational damage is my greatest concern. As you have said the press coverage would be horrific and even future success would be tainted.

This has been accusation thrown at City for years and if we lose at CAS, we literally do not have another avenue to refute the allegation.

 

[Zabbasbeard]

For all the trust I have in City, cor blimey Little Frank, the wait is excruciating, and more so the closer we get. You know it is, it really is.

 

[Whether or not]

This thread has been fascinating in recent days, veering between certainty and optimism and then utter negativity and predictions of disaster. What it shows more than anything else, is that in an age of instant news and online access to everything, a genuine news blackout causes incredible anxiety for people, with blues looking for hidden meaning in everything. So I will join in and say that I very much doubt KDB and his agent would have said he would stay through a two year ban, if they actually thought we were getting a two year ban - there you go, I’m guilty of half baked speculation now as well. Roll on tomorrow.

 

[g180aj]

Making things up is not going to help you or any of the other weak minds on here.

Weak mind?

I'm not claiming to know anything, what I'm saying is the potential implications to us losing are potentially far bigger than just a couple of years out of 1 competition, if you can't grasp that then your mind may be lacking a few brain cells!

 

[ancoats]

reporting on the BBC website that it could go both ways ??

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53366098

from what i have heard this week and its not from the club ? city did a deal and the 2 year ban will be lifted and suspended for 2 seasons, and the fine will be cut in half a city agreed to a 3 year period of having to show uefa the books, also admitted to some sort of blame in failure in understanding the rules not cheating ??

this is quoted on the BBC report above ???

but like many on here manchester city wanted to clear our name completely from the start so why do a deal with uefa, i don't get a deal myself and from the start people at the club have said we have done nothing wrong and will stand by that

so for me there is no middle ground here and manchester city have to win without a deals or questions, they will be asked by the fans and media on the full no wrong doing qoute they have stood behind only to cut a deal

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Who cares about reputation when the laws are wrong? And which big team/club has never missed a single year of CL. They all have. You're making too much of it. A season is nine months and with a one year ban, we'd already be back in the hunt for top four by the Autumn. Don't listen to the sky is falling drama queens.

You're making too little of it. I care about a guilty verdict which essentially sets the legal seal for those who have long tried to deligitimise all the trophies we have won since 2011.

We would likely start next season with a significant points reduction from the Premier League, possibly the least they would try to enforce.

On top of that, hundreds of jobs are in the balance across the club.

Which is why I have always been confident of a result, because the stakes are so incredibly high for City to have still taken it all the way to this point, knowing that.

 

[bluemanchester]

Your missing the point.

Good. One less thing to worry about tonight.;)

Your missing the point.

Good, one less thing to think about tonight.;)

 

[Blue Hefner]

I honestly can't see how anyone can be anything other than optimistic. I was convinced we were innocent from the moment Soriano spoke out and made it clear we had done nothing wrong. I have read all the Der Spiegel mails and you can't draw any conclusions without seeing the full email trail. If City were guilty Soriano would not have been so bullish and City would have worked behind the scenes for a deal with UEFA (probably accepting a one-year ban)
The alternative to being optimistic is to assume that Soriano and all our senior managers have told a pack of lies and have deliberately misled all our fans, customers, staff, sponsors, investors, players, and worst of all Pep. I don't believe Soriano is either dishonest or stupid. I also believe CAS is a fair and indpendent body and will do the right thing.

I cannot get this into by head as a realistic scenario. I just don't accpet that any organisation with the profile of City(who have already signed a settlement agreement for the vast majority of the period) could be that malicious

If it goes against us, I expect resignations and sackings bythe minute, followed by Police vans!

 

[Marvin]

I thought by 19.30 hours on Sunday we'd have something more to go off than Pep's demeanour. No one seems to know anything. Still this morning the argument was that CIty would have an embargoed decision and hence Pep's confident post-match interview was indicative of success.

 

[franksinatra]

I’d imagine that City get more because we’re the most offensively dominant side in the history of English football. I’d be surprised if we we got that many if we were a Europa side.

Not sure if it’s changed this season with United having so many but Liverpool had the most ever PL penalties up until recently.

If you look at the breakdown of penalties its often not always the most offensive sides, as clubs like Bournemouth, Crystal Palace (some seasons) have had a disproportionate amount in comparison to goals scored. I think the type of players has an impact also, Zaha at Palace etc could be an example.

 

[Tb1981]

The last time wa


They dare not even imply they have a sniff, being so close to an actual verdict.

Most would usually speculate bullshit for weeks on end but they can't, simply because it would expose them for the blaggers they are.

They would rather say nowt and then come across all informed and opine tomorrow, offering opinion as fact.

City have played a blinder in terms of the flow of information.

Perhaps they also feel it will have more resonance and meaning for both our fans and the wider public that we all get it tomorrow hard and straight.

Bang on the money
This shows that they are all full of shit
Without uefa giving them the inside track they know zero
Same with transfers
Most of it is just made up shite
Wait till 10 tomorrow and same lee on the athletic will publish one if the two pieces he has already penned!!
Not just Sam mind

 

[Saddleworth2]

The last time wa


They dare not even imply they have a sniff, being so close to an actual verdict.

Most would usually speculate bullshit for weeks on end but they can't, simply because it would expose them for the blaggers they are.

They would rather say nowt and then come across all informed and opine tomorrow, offering opinion as fact.

City have played a blinder in terms of the flow of information.

Perhaps they also feel it will have more resonance and meaning for both our fans and the wider public that we all get it tomorrow hard and straight.

What a welcome difference from the usual ill informed bullshit.