CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

[Bluebeemer]

What are the estimates for City's legal fees in the CAS appeal, anyone?

 

[Bluebeemer]

PRICELESS! before anybody says it!!

 

[HelloCity]

So how come Cheesy knew before them then?

Probably a guess or based on the rumours that were being texted round.

 

[Shaelumstash]

You know one click equates to less than a penny in ad revenue.

I never understand the whole “I’m not clicking that” malarkey and the need to announce it. It makes absolutely no difference to The Mail whether one person does or doesn’t.

That's a bit like saying what's the point in voting in a General Election.

 

[Mike Cledford]

You know one click equates to less than a penny in ad revenue.

I never understand the whole “I’m not clicking that” malarkey and the need to announce it. It makes absolutely no difference to The Mail whether one person does or doesn’t.

Aww.. lve grown to like the posts of the people who think their decisions to give their precious little click (or not) will affect huge companies.
Their click has exactly the same impact as that of a Mexican 11 year old using an internet cafe. Ie the square root of bugger all.
The MUEN gets loads of clicks from round the world but is dying on its feet with or without the Liverpool Echo's owners.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Talk on twitter is that Uefa's case was built on the Der Spiegel articles and nothing else? At what point are the press going to possibly step back and say that they've been done here?!

 

[Rammy Blue]

Probably a guess or based on the rumours that were being texted round.

I was joking, lol.

 

[rickmcfc]

Talk on twitter is that Uefa's case was built on the Der Spiegel articles and nothing else? At what point are the press going to possibly step back and say that they've been done here?!

When Parry and Gill give them the nod.

 

[Mike Cledford]

It really doesn’t. Cleavers not clicking on any article posted on here for an entire season wouldn’t even starve them of the cost of a cappuccino.

Not even a sugar cube.

 

[Centurions]

Talk on twitter is that Uefa's case was built on the Der Spiegel articles and nothing else? At what point are the press going to possibly step back and say that they've been done here?!

For UEFAs sake I hope not, I posted this earlier in the media thread:

https://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussba...tlosen-a-b1e3f296-d799-4d98-8183-514868407c6f

Has Uefa misinterpreted its own statutes?
They also made a half-hearted attempt to get the original documents: Uefa's legal department asked SPIEGEL to publish the material on Manchester City. However, SPIEGEL does not generally pass on confidential documents from informants and informs Uefa that it must contact whistleblower Rui Pinto, the source for the material, or its legal counsel. To date, the Uefa investigators have not done so - although Pinto has emphasized several times that they also want to cooperate with association investigators.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Talk on twitter is that Uefa's case was built on the Der Spiegel articles and nothing else? At what point are the press going to possibly step back and say that they've been done here?!

Many of the press weren’t ‘done’ they were complicit.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

No need to talk to Der Spiegel when you get the information from Pinto - The alleged thief. (I say alleged because he just became the best place to leak information. It is more likely that Qatari state security did the hacking., )

The Pinto trial will be fascinating (starts in September). It looks like his lawyer is going for the "whistle-blower" defence which explains why he is happy to speak to UEFA. He will do anything to make himself look like a victim. But he was apparently caught trying to collect payment of blackmail money at a motorway service station. He also had hundreds of thousands of pounds in Swiss bank accounts.
I don't think the City emails feature in any of the 90 charges but there are charges relating to Benfica FC and Sporting Lisbon. I think the police believe he is in the business of selling hacked data to whoever will pay. I wonder if the Qataris are just one of his customers.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

The balls on them to do that.

They could have easily excepted a reduced sentence deal instead of going to CAS.

They must feel pretty confident now about the future.

I believe City sought and received the best legal counsel for the job, knowing how well the CAS hearing had gone.

You can be confident but until the verdict was announced, it was still to be known.

What a horrible situation to be in. There were no leaks to feed off for a reason.

 

[dario2739]

Aww.. lve grown to like the posts of the people who think their decisions to give their precious little click (or not) will affect huge companies.
Their click has exactly the same impact as that of a Mexican 11 year old using an internet cafe. Ie the square root of bugger all.
The MUEN gets loads of clicks from round the world but is dying on its feet with or without the Liverpool Echo's owners.

To be honest – it's simply not about how much revenue is made on each click for the paper – it's the information garnered by that click which is more expensive.
When you click on that page – unless you'e using a VPN, your IP address can tell them loads... Emails are the same... you'd be amazed at how much information can be gathered from an email just from you opening it... say an email off City for the new kit launch, they know if you open it, they can pretty much pin-point your address from doing so, and will know if that email prompts you to go the city Website etc. etc.
All this digital information is worth far, far more to the newspaper than the pittance they get from simply one click

To add to that, see this quote from the BBC...

"Publishers increasingly use it for simple economics; the more clicks you get, the more people on your site, the more you can charge for advertising.

A report by the Columbia Journalism Review highlighted the case of online magazine Slant, which pays writers $100 per month, plus $5 for every 500 clicks on their stories.

Slant is far from unique in this respect and this business model is becoming increasingly common, but opponents argue it means journalists will dumb down stories in order to get more clicks in order to earn a living."

So it literally pays for a journalist to write clickbait – the more hits, the more they personally make!

 

[blue oli]

City execs did NOT know the verdict when they drove to work on Monday.

They were confident, they were very hopeful, but they were sweating like the rest of us.

That is absolutely concrete.

How do you know they didn’t take the train ? :-)

 

[City Man]

I’ve said before that UEFA is a multi layered organisation, with many different factions, all with different and sometimes opposing agendas.
To treat it as a single, united entity with a common goal is a mistake.

as has been said by others on here, it wouldn’t be surprising if certain elements were happy for the case to fail, given it will weaken the position of the ‘old guard’ who appear to be clutching at straws.

Ceferin, by all accounts, doesn’t want to continue this witch hunt and wants to build a proper working relationship.

fingers crossed.

I've been thinking about this as well. One of the factions you mention has to be the ECA which is an official partner of UEFA. So that's the old guard (the cabal clubs) sitting right at the heart of what you might call the "traditional" UEFA, effectively controlling it and seeking to kill it, like a cancer Ceferin wants to cut out. Ironic to think that the working relationship you mention might reflect the fact that MCFC are "traditional" UEFA's most powerful ally.

 

[horlock_was_super]

City execs did NOT know the verdict when they drove to work on Monday.

They were confident, they were very hopeful, but they were sweating like the rest of us.

That is absolutely concrete.

There’s that bloody word again!!!!!

 

[Tricky_Trev]

City execs did NOT know the verdict when they drove to work on Monday.

They were confident, they were very hopeful, but they were sweating like the rest of us.

That is absolutely concrete.

So Cheeseman was guessing then. Just got lucky.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

As I have said previously, the statement of applicable law / regulations released the previous week to both parties and dissected by our lawyers meant it would have been a huge suprise if we had not been aquited from the main charges.

Im not privy to what may have transpired beforehand, only the assertion that the senior personnel did not know the verdict and the nerves were very much real.

I would not know as to your knowledge on actual legal process beforehand.

 

[rickmcfc]

How do you know they didn’t take the train ? :-)

because they are barred from the trains, apparently they slapped everyone who fell asleep last time.