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Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Report finds no evidence of Russian Interference in Brexit ..... because , despite four years of warnings , the Government hasn't even looked for any yet.

Headlines in the Independent 22/July / 2020
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You were saying that this report, which you must have mentioned
a million times, and bemoaned the fact that it was still not out, would
prove what you wanted. So, now that it's done nothing of the sort, it's
because the government didn't look for it.
Never mind though, you can now tell the world about the evidence you have.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
In your opinion ;-)
Exam questions for those that seek to deflect from the report:

Why have the allegations not been properly investigated? The report covers more than adequately the reasons they should be.
Why was the report held back for 9 months? Why did the PM lie constantly about it?

Why not have a bash?
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No-one's stopping anyone from doing their own independent investigation, has it? Didn't at te time. I wonder why no-one else bothered?
 
Ancient Citizen said:
You were saying that this report, which you must have mentioned
a million times, and bemoaned the fact that it was still not out, would
prove what you wanted. So, now that it's done nothing of the sort, it's
because the government didn't look for it.
Never mind though, you can now tell the world about the evidence you have.
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"We have the non-evidence that doesn't not prove the Government didn't not investigate the possible maybe corruptive influence of Russian interference!"
 
hgblue said:
The prime minister, the chancellor, the leader of the opposition, the Scottish and Welsh leaders, the governor of the Bank of England, the president of the US, the IMF, the national broadcaster, Blair and Major, all arguing for Remain. Yet they still lost, and they’re crying about Russian interference. You’ve got to laugh.
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It's moved into the realms of pity.

I don't think this is something many of them will ever be able to get over.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Report finds no evidence of Russian Interference in Brexit ..... because , despite four years of warnings , the Government hasn't even looked for any yet.

Headlines in the Independent 22/July / 2020
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You are struggling - let me help

Type these words.....

" OK - fair enough - I did state that there would be evidence presented in the report of Russian interference in the referendum - I have been proven to be wrong and I fully accept that simple fact"
 
mcfc1632 said:
You are struggling - let me help

Type these words.....

" OK - fair enough - I did state that there would be evidence presented in the report of Russian interference in the referendum - I have been proven to be wrong and I fully accept that simple fact"
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You're asking a lot there, mate.
 
hgblue said:
The prime minister, the chancellor, the leader of the opposition, the Scottish and Welsh leaders, the governor of the Bank of England, the president of the US, the IMF, the national broadcaster, Blair and Major, all arguing for Remain. Yet they still lost, and they’re crying about Russian interference. You’ve got to laugh.
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Forget Brexit.

Russia is meddling in the affairs of this country but somehow patriots like you think it’s okay.

Give your head a fucking wobble
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Please let me have a newspaper headline that supports your argument
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Oh god, we're back in penguin logic territory again.
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dave_blue12 said:
Forget Brexit.

Russia is meddling in the affairs of this country but somehow patriots like you think it’s okay.

Give your head a fucking wobble
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They have been ever since the Grand Alliance ended (and possibly even during).

Is this new news for you?
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Facts or your own personal truths?


How could it? Unless you expect the committee to do the police work personally.

required character? By whose definition? Yours?

These generalised and pompous statements do you absolutely no favours and even alienate those that are relatively friendly towards you.

Why have the allegations not been properly investigated? The report covers more than adequately the reasons they should be.
Why was the report held back for 9 months? Why did the PM lie constantly about it?
Try answering those questions. Sorry if even the fact that I ask them labels me as having deficient character. If you can't or won't answer them perhaps you should reflect in the mirror yourself.
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If you had been on the Leave side of the argument for the last 4 years you would have a far better understanding of what it is to be the target of pompous/snide/insulting posts.

You have - I humbly suggest - a repeated blind spot on this thread.....

You jump in and get involved in points that are aimed elsewhere - and you are wholly inconsistent in what you react to or pull up - this habit does you no favours

It renders all the good stuff you post far less relevant and impactful

My position has been simple and clear - so please answer these questions - without more whataboutery and distraction - simple yes or no please......

Did @Ifwecouldjust....... post:

Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Still beats me how people can support Brexit whilst the Government are sitting on a report (despite a petition demanding it be released) which allegedly confirms Russian interference in the referendum (If it didn't it would've been released by now)..... the similarities to the support of Trump are mind blowing.

Surely the Government should be forced to release it / make the results public (no redactions) .... discuss it in parliament and then a decision should be made.
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??

2/ Does the report reflect evidence that would support the level of certainty expressed by him in that post??

If the answers are anything other than respectively Yes and No - then I will leave you to it.

If they are Yes and No then you are confirming the thrust of what I have been saying on this subject today.

@Ifwecouldjust....... is running and hiding - and not finding the 'character' to just admit the obvious truth.

My comments have largely been about this simple fact..... and it is a simple fact and no prevarication and whataboutery can distract from that...

Remainers - including @Ifwecouldjust....... have been saying for a long time that the report would demonstrate that there was interference

The report does not

They were wrong

Yes, there are other questions that the report raises - but these are facts - and it would be a pleasant change to see people just accept that they were wrong with earlier comments before pompously ploughing on with fresh inaccuracies

You have an obsession of getting in the way and taking on the case for others - as I say it does you no favours

I will happily answer the separate, but related, questions that you posed when I see an answer to mine - and I see @Ifwecouldjust....... and others admit that they were wrong - afterall I have been making points mainly different to the ones you are making and I made my first before the whataboutery and distraction
 
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BobKowalski said:
I mean the fuckers actually murdered a British citizen on UK soil and it’s like...nothing to see...move on...don’t investigate.

Fucking patriots *, my arse.
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Wow...

I mean there's reaching and then there's blatantly saying we're complicit and condoning murder just because we don't believe for one second that the Russian Interference had any widespread influence or changing effect on a democratic vote.

I mean are you seriously trying to connect brexit to the murders of people like Litvinenko and Skripal? It's actually becoming hilarious to see you fall apart so badly.

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