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west didsblue said:
And they will if the UK is the biggest market for them. If most get exported then it’s likely they’ll move production unless we get a half decent deal.
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Components are sourced from 27 countries across the EU. 80% of MINI's produced in the UK are exported. They also have an assembly facility in the Netherlands at Born. Like all car manufacturers as a result of Covid they face a massive drop in demand for new vehicles for an unspecified period and the best way to survive would be to rationalise the range - cull the slowest sellers - and centralise production.

Deal or no deal they face increased paperwork to move stuff in and out of the UK - Kent lorry parks and if its no deal WTO rules and tariffs - if you were BMW where would you make MINI's?
 
bluethrunthru said:
Components are sourced from 27 countries across the EU. 80% of MINI's produced in the UK are exported. They also have an assembly facility in the Netherlands at Born. Like all car manufacturers as a result of Covid they face a massive drop in demand for new vehicles for an unspecified period and the best way to survive would be to rationalise the range - cull the slowest sellers - and centralise production.

Deal or no deal they face increased paperwork to move stuff in and out of the UK - Kent lorry parks and if its no deal WTO rules and tariffs - if you were BMW where would you make MINI's?
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I can see I will need to switch from a Porsche to a Vauxhall. Is there no end to this misery.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I can see I will need to switch from a Porsche to a Vauxhall. Is there no end to this misery.
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Vauxhall/Opel are owned by PSA now not GM. The plant on the Wirral at Ellesmere Port has been under threat since Brexit - the old GM based platforms are being phased out - the new Corsa is a Pug 208 in a shell suit. You can make the same case against Ellesmere Port as you can against MINI at Oxford. The industry was under major threat due to Brexit, No Deal was going to be the death knell for many plants now throw in Covid and the impacts on the number of vehicles likely to be sold and EU based manufacturers would be mad not to decide enough is enough and move production into the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...d-of-ellesmere-port-plant-says-vauxhall-owner
 
bluethrunthru said:
Vauxhall/Opel are owned by PSA now not GM. The plant on the Wirral at Ellesmere Port has been under threat since Brexit - the old GM based platforms are being phased out - the new Corsa is a Pug 208 in a shell suit. You can make the same case against Ellesmere Port as you can against MINI at Oxford. The industry was under major threat due to Brexit, No Deal was going to be the death knell for many plants now throw in Covid and the impacts on the number of vehicles likely to be sold and EU based manufacturers would be mad not to decide enough is enough and move production into the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...d-of-ellesmere-port-plant-says-vauxhall-owner
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I guess the only hope for UK car manufacturing in a No Deal scenario is if one of the manufacturers decides to try and corner the UK market by locally manufacturing and assembling a range of cars just for domestic sales, which is what Nissan intimated they might do. Can’t see it happening though.
 
west didsblue said:
I guess the only hope for UK car manufacturing in a No Deal scenario is if one of the manufacturers decides to try and corner the UK market by locally manufacturing and assembling a range of cars just for domestic sales, which is what Nissan intimated they might do. Can’t see it happening though.
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Sorry but just over 80% of NISSAN Washingtons output is also exported. They make the Quashqai, LEAF and Juke only - very limited range if they stay and just produce for the UK - probably not financially viable.

Simple fact is the UK isn't the biggest of markets but it has been a big assembler of cars. That obviously indicates they are hugely reliant on volume and exports -its not going to be pretty and you have to recall Rover, Talbot and several other marques have gone in the last 10-20 years - some just collapsed, some wound up after mergers and take overs made them smaller and smaller - those jobs are then gone for good.
 
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