CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

[Jacko1956]

It's what they and the rest of the media do. Clickbait headline first, truth later when they know most people have already seen the first one.

Was so f---ing annoyed couldnt remember what the first headline was exactly. They dont usually do it that quickly wonder if the number of complaints have hastened this it's usually an overnight thing !

 

[Norbert D]

Just read Conns pile of shit in the Guardian and it’s basically questioning the impartiality of CAS, even though UEFA agreed to the appointments. It also harps on about time barred stuff in great detail, I mean if it’s time barred it’s time barred! A lot of these media wankers will have had their next career steps mapped out basically picking over the bones of City but they lost, now they are trying to salvage their shitty careers. You even get the distinct impression UEFA were strong armed into banning City even though they probably knew it would be overturned.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Khaldoon will do his end of season interview then we will see

Tbh Karen the end of season interviews are very erudite, but we need dynamite

 

[blueparrot]

...and the club will most probably allow them to get away with writing this stuff.

Sure they’ll take legal advice, not just wade in.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

So am i correct in thinking that

A) UEFA based part of their accusations on hacked emails - those emails have been proven to be not only illegally obtained but then tampered with/edited to make it seem that we were doing wrong. ie - someone deliberately tried to set us up by providing and or using evidence that was false.

B) The time bared thing - they tried to do us for deals/money that were outside the timeframe (before) FFP was brought in? UEFA basically tried to do us for doing something before the rules even existed?

Is that about the short of it?

The illegal obtaining is irrelevant - they were considered admissible.
Only one was tampered (combination of 2) and was deemed to not affect veracity. No implication that this was done y UEFA.
The others were not edited by UEFA, but were excerpts only.

Timebarring - they claimed a different interpretation of the timebarring clause. CAS disagreed with their interpretation.

As far as I can tell, not fully correct on any point.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

I wrote In my compliant to the bbc

oh do fuck off you biased bunch Of ****s. Who did you have read the judgement Garth crooks? You can fuck off for your licence fee it’s just been revoked..

 

[BringBackSwales]

No point expecting Kloss to say anything, she will probably leave it to Pep, again

 

[NorCalBlue]

The Conn piece? Very odd to focus on the CFCB report so much. Shame CAS said no.

The "CFCB proved ADUG funding of other sponsorships in 2012" is amazingly bent in it's perspective - no mention that it's based on an email or two, and similar claims were binned as unsupported.

Yes, the Conn piece. How does a "journalist" follow the case, read the report, and then come up with the following two bullet points to headline the story?

• Judgment rules that much of Uefa’s case was ‘time-barred’
• Cas panel chairman Rui Botica Santos recommended by City

Translation: "City got off on a technicality" and "City got off due to biased judge". Amazing.

 

[JRockBlues]

"Dear sirs"

That won't go down well at the bbc, they will have you down as a sexist, probably front page bbc headlines tomorrow.

"Manchester City fan write's disgracefully sexist letter"

"bbc employee severely traumatised"

I thought it was better to go with this than "dear fuckwits on the website's editing desk"

 

[BlueAnorak]

So what exactly were we fined for? What or how did we obstruct?

Failing to comply with a kangeroo court it would appear.

 

[kaz7]

Tbh Karen the end of season interviews are very erudite, but we need dynamite

We got dynamite last year with the if anyone says anything,guess what we hear it,we will not be blamed for the mismanagement of other football clubs,that was positively explosive for the laid back man ha,i know what you mean though

 

[meltonblue]

So am i correct in thinking that

A) UEFA based part of their accusations on hacked emails - those emails have been proven to be not only illegally obtained but then tampered with/edited to make it seem that we were doing wrong. ie - someone deliberately tried to set us up by providing and or using evidence that was false.

B) The time bared thing - they tried to do us for deals/money that were outside the timeframe (before) FFP was brought in? UEFA basically tried to do us for doing something before the rules even existed?

C) UEFA's claims that we didn't cooperate multiple times was actually shown to be non cooperation just twice - refusing to answer questions based on evidence we knew to be at least incorrect and at worst a "fit up."

Is that about the short of it?

Just on the first one, the emails were taken out of context as key information was omitted from them. They weren’t edited in terms of rewritten.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I gather Ogden has singled out Tariq Panja & Rob Harris as "impartial sources" when both the NY Times and Associated Press were specifically named in the judgement as the publishers of supposedly confidential information that could only have come from inside UEFA. Yep, that's about as impartial as you can get. Ziegler is being briefed by City and Marcotti is his own man and the soundest journalist on FFP so I'll listed to what they have to say but Panja & Harris - really?

Ziegler's Times piece appears to be lead with the blatant disregard angle too.

Ogden's choices were hilarious though.

 

[lancs blue]

Ziegler is being briefed by City

His Times article doesn't show it, like all the rest of the weasels he focuses on the obstruction angle.

 

[chesterbells]

Yeah, it's a shocker.

Does it contain lies, or is it just distorted/partial?

 

[kaz7]

Just read Conns pile of shit in the Guardian and it’s basically questioning the impartiality of CAS, even though UEFA agreed to the appointments. It also harps on about time barred stuff in great detail, I mean if it’s time barred it’s time barred! A lot of these media wankers will have had their next career steps mapped out basically picking over the bones of City but they lost, now they are trying to salvage their shitty careers. You even get the distinct impression UEFA were strong armed into banning City even though they probably knew it would be overturned.

Some emails were before FFP even existed,do they really think they should be involved in this case lol

 

[Cobwebcat]

I gather Ogden has singled out Tariq Panja & Rob Harris as "impartial sources" when both the NY Times and Associated Press were specifically named in the judgement as the publishers of supposedly confidential information that could only have come from inside UEFA. Yep, that's about as impartial as you can get. Ziegler is being briefed by City and Marcotti is his own man and the soundest journalist on FFP so I'll listed to what they have to say but Panja & Harris - really?

I thought he was being sarcastic! I could well be wrong.

 

[Robanompivenov]

I see Nick Harris has taken it well. Sanctimonious twat.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Yes, the Conn piece. How does a "journalist" follow the case, read the report, and then come up with the following two bullet points to headline the story?

• Judgment rules that much of Uefa’s case was ‘time-barred’
• Cas panel chairman Rui Botica Santos recommended by City

Translation: "City got off on a technicality" and "City got off due to biased judge". Amazing.

The Santos thing is quite strange, especially as nobody had a problem with it. It's full of implied dodginess while avoiding actually saying it.

 

[BlueRockape]

Sure they’ll take legal advice, not just wade in.

It looks as if the wankers (press ) have wade in without actually reading the judgment I hope we fukin chew them up