CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

[M12Blue]

I hope Pep does his next presser with all of the headlines from the CAS report written behind him so everyone can see.

Have them on a yellow breaking news ticker tape would be fun

 

[jitsubluedan]

He’s selectively naive IMHO, when he was “shocked” to find out that Franny wanted to make money out of City.

That's the bit that stuck out for me - he sounded like such a fucking child.

That's when I stopped reading it.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Some people only think you pass on transfer info

Colin did me and this board a huge favour posting it.

 

[Groke]

I understand the fans anger towards the media, what we need to understand is that the media industry is now based on sensationalist articles and headlines used to drive online clicks to a publisher's website and in context we're still a small club for generating clicks and people engaging with articles pro-city vs anti-city/pro liverpool/utd. Also there is an over-indexing of liverpool and utd fans in the media, (mentioned by Duncan Castle himself in the latest transfer podcast), and that either conscious or unconscious bias will effect the clubs reporting.

City need to have a long-term plan to alter the media reporting. Offer sports journalism courses from the Etihad campus. Target younger markets where professions have yet to be decided, and then organically we'll have a better, accurate representation in the media.

this isn't about generating clicks, this is about a couple of clubs heavily influencing the football media for their own ends. The Liverpool hacking scandal should have been a massive story generating lots of "clicks", however, it was hardly mentioned. Over the last few years, we've seen how certain united managers are barely criticised despite abject performances, again, utd bashing would get loads of clicks; that is until the club wants rid of them and their press mates get the nod to do the dirty work. Throw in a few partisan fanzine writers like Evans, Ogden and Rudd, and this is where we are with the media - nothing but low quality guff bereft of any objectivity, impartiality or informative insight

 

[domalino]

I think it’s was 5.5m emails AND documents.

Also presumably if I write an email to confirm a transfer meeting and CC in Pep, Khaldoon, Txiki, the secretaries, the head scout etc. then that 1 email I have sent has generated a further 6+ emails. If I attach 2 power points covering our transfer targets and possible sales, and a word document of the meeting's agenda then that's generated 18 documents.

So from 1 message, you've created up to 30 "emails and documents" to be stolen.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Even the Joan Gamper Trophy?

And the Texaco Trophy.

 

[KS55]

They're twats and they know they are.

Sounds like a suitable song.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

I've not been to a CL game since I drew a line in the sand after the Real semi but, when we can reasonably safely go to games again I'll pop along to one and join in not with the boos but the laughing 'ala laughing policeman' which I think would be more apt in future.

 

[lancs blue]

Have you read “Richer than God”? Conn is pitifully naive and therefore, in my eyes, lacking intelligence where it matters.

Yes I have, his assertion that he never realised football clubs had owners was bewildering to say the least.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Tony Evans' diatribe today in the Indie is hilarious in how much spin is applied to discredit UEFA.

Oh, and somewhat laissez faire approach to detail. I like "City were obstructive to the point where the panel fined them £27m."

 

[cheekybids]

I think he really wants to write a book on FC United.....

it’s called “my mate spent the money”

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I think that's bad wording mate, we have every right to be upset with the clear agenda and propeganda that this has been twisted in to.
It's actually worse than it ever has been which is the absolute opposite to what we should have seen, and although I'm not surprised about it I am upset about it.

Okay, certainly there should be no surprise at the reporting by the usual suspects?

Of course it can grind our gears, but it's only true if you believe it to be true.

A lot of these people are just needy oxygen thiefs who need the extension of Twitter to feel validated and relevant.

 

[sweeps feet]

Is it a coincidence that all the too people at City are taking a break at the time this was released? Seem like it was planned any ideas on this?

 

[Ted_Bovis]

They’re really hurting since we were cleared and they found out they’re skint.

Just won the CL and PL and wanted to furlough staff and can’t afford transfers.

Diddums.

Don’t forget the million quid disco they had.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Not in this case obviously not . What do you think she should do? Pretty sure she'd soon be out of a job if she decided any club response, of her own back. Don't know why you have an issue with her, the club don't seem to, so she must be doing something right. At least in the opinion of those who employ her and know what her job is.

Apparently what the head of media/comms etc should do is go on holiday, although I doubt it makes much difference. So what exactly is it that you think Vicky does well? I am not seeing it, or hearing it, so please tell me as you seem to know?

 

[markstephenhickey]

His book ‘Richer Than God’ has a full chapter dedicated to FC United(I skipped it of course)

Jesus Christ. The relationships with certain people in the media and city fans are completely in the gutter now. When we are all back in stadiums I can see some serious verbals going off at the press box.

 

[BringBackSwales]

I've spoken to Gary Cooke on this matter and his take is that she does as she is told and its no good getting into a public fight with the press when they control what is printed, very similar to the stance Nike took in backing up Lance Armstrong and Tiger Woods.
Its frustrating for us as fans having to constantly read and hear these snide remarks, but that is the way they want to play it

Garry Cook you mean?

 

[BringBackSwales]

Do you know the name of the Head of Comms in any other.football club?

Yes I do, although I only support one football club, so why would I give a fuck about the others? I mean seriously? Charlie Brooks by the way. Kloss and Brooks are the only 2 I have met

 

[Ted_Bovis]

The notion of ‘The Empire of the Kop’ pontificating about Europeans bans is too comical for words.

That lot can’t speak properly. How can you expect them to grasp irony?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Apparently what the head of media/comms etc should do is go on holiday, although I doubt it makes much difference. So what exactly is it that you think Vicky does well? I am not seeing it, or hearing it, so please tell me as you seem to know?

Her remit has been different for a number of years now mate.

She is more across corporate communications, working across the CFG, travelling to some of our outposts.

We have Simon Heggie as the regular duty-to-day media head.

Our bad press gets pelters and rightly so sometimes, but how many people on here deal regularly with football club press offices?

City are a long way from being the worst.

Plenty of room for improvement but people are naive if they think people like Martin Samuel or Pep suddenly get the inclination to go rogue.

Pep's calling out of some of our enemies was known in advance by City's comms people.

Some City staff have taken a short break prior to the Real Madrid game and I don't think the CAS findings included any surprises.