It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

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BringBackSwales said:
You really are a tiresome bore. I didn’t say he had no ability, I said we won’t buy him because -
1 too expensive
2 wages too high
3 he dives
4 the effect he would have on the rest of the squad

You then accused me of having some personal vendetta against him, I don’t, I just don’t see him adding any value to our squad based on the above (and more, but I really don’t have the time; just google Neymar attitude and you’ll get the idea).

Now you are TELLING me that he is one of the top 5 players in the world, as if that is fact; it’s utter garbage, there is no such measurable as “the top 5 players in the world”, that list is entirely subjective and opinion based. He MAY be in the top 5 players in the world for natural ability, but in terms of application of ability, I wouldn’t put him in the top 100. Players such as KDB, Messi, Ronaldo, VVD, Alaba, Laporte, Hazard, Lewandoski, D Silva, Sterling, Kane, Aubameyang, Mane, Salah, Aguero and many more would be in any team of mine before Neymar, because in every case IN MY OPINION they all apply themselves much more. That’s my opinion, and it makes me neither sad nor bitter. I am however old, but then at least my user name is based on irony rather than last years Christmas present.
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I never said we’d buy him either so the first part of your post is completely irrelevant.

If you don’t see how he’s a top player and keep denying it then there really isn’t much else I can add. Whilst I know he isn’t liked by many of the older guard on here for the same superficial reasons that Grealish isn’t, I don’t think many reasonable people would say that Neymar isn’t even a top 100 player. Perhaps the key word is in that sentence.

Not sure if you are just bored or miserable but if it’s the latter I sincerely hope that whatever is troubling you gets better. I don’t mean that in a condescending or bad way either, just from one blue to another. All the best!
 
racecar said:
I never said we’d buy him either so the first part of your post is completely irrelevant.

If you don’t see how he’s a top player and keep denying it then there really isn’t much else I can add. Whilst I know he isn’t liked by many of the older guard on here for the same superficial reasons that Grealish isn’t, I don’t think many reasonable people would say that Neymar isn’t even a top 100 player. Perhaps the key word is in that sentence.

Not sure if you are just bored or miserable but if it’s the latter I sincerely hope that whatever is troubling you gets better. I don’t mean that in a condescending or bad way either, just from one blue to another. All the best!
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Not agreeing with you is not bitter, not bored, not miserable you daft sod, so stop the fucking insults. And if you care to read what I wrote, I said not a top 100 player, in my opinion, IN TERMS OF APPLICATION. I doubt he is top 1,000 in terms of application, IN MY OPINION. He has, IN MY OPINION, more natural ability than say KDB, but doesn’t come close in terms of overall ability, because of how KDB applies himself. In terms of condescending, have a think about shit like “I hope whatever is troubling you gets better”, the words of a truly condescending prick.
 
BringBackSwales said:
You really are a tiresome bore. I didn’t say he had no ability, I said we won’t buy him because -
1 too expensive
2 wages too high
3 he dives
4 the effect he would have on the rest of the squad

You then accused me of having some personal vendetta against him, I don’t, I just don’t see him adding any value to our squad based on the above (and more, but I really don’t have the time; just google Neymar attitude and you’ll get the idea).

Now you are TELLING me that he is one of the top 5 players in the world, as if that is fact; it’s utter garbage, there is no such measurable as “the top 5 players in the world”, that list is entirely subjective and opinion based. He MAY be in the top 5 players in the world for natural ability, but in terms of application of ability, I wouldn’t put him in the top 100. Players such as KDB, Messi, Ronaldo, VVD, Alaba, Laporte, Hazard, Lewandoski, D Silva, Sterling, Kane, Aubameyang, Mane, Salah, Aguero and many more would be in any team of mine before Neymar, because in every case IN MY OPINION they all apply themselves much more. That’s my opinion, and it makes me neither sad nor bitter. I am however old, but then at least my user name is based on irony rather than last years Christmas present.
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But what's your opinion though?
 
kaz7 said:
Tell pep,txiki and khaldoon,we don't go for pricks anymore
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I guess you haven’t listened to (nor read the transcript of) our new players interview. For the record I have no issue with it, but he most certainly comes across as a negative character. Football fans always find ways to romanticise clubs and we are guilty of it as well.
 
Kokonut1307 said:
I guess you haven’t listened to (nor read the transcript of) our new players interview. For the record I have no issue with it, but he most certainly comes across as a negative character. Football fans always find ways to romanticise clubs and we are guilty of it as well.
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No he doesn't.

He comes across as someone very happy to be coming here.
 
Kokonut1307 said:
I guess you haven’t listened to (nor read the transcript of) our new players interview. For the record I have no issue with it, but he most certainly comes across as a negative character. Football fans always find ways to romanticise clubs and we are guilty of it as well.
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I have seen it ,he is not a negative character and If that is your best defence you have lost,we have standards and that is that,their personality and how they will fit in is as important as their skills
 
Neville Kneville said:
No he doesn't.

He comes across as someone very happy to be coming here.
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His Marca interview is far from graceful, especially where he talks about his 3 point ultimatum to Valencia being named captain, being one of the highest earners and having the owner directly call him for his renewal.

Personally I don’t have an issue with it, but people are acting as if we are the bastion of moral righteousness, and we would only sign humble players. I just pointed out the contrary to that, as we just signed a player who made an interview immediately after his move to bad mouth the ownership of his old club and a former teammate.
 
kaz7 said:
I have seen it ,he is not a negative character and If that is your best defence you have lost,we have standards and that is that,their personality and how they will fit in is as important as their skills
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Never said he was a negative character but he did not conduct himself according to this supposed level of righteousness that many claim is a must for us to sign players.
 
Kokonut1307 said:
His Marca interview is far from graceful, especially where he talks about his 3 point ultimatum to Valencia being named captain, being one of the highest earners and having the owner directly call him for his renewal.

Personally I don’t have an issue with it, but people are acting as if we are the bastion of moral righteousness, and we would only sign humble players. I just pointed out the contrary to that, as we just signed a player who made an interview immediately after his move to bad mouth the ownership of his old club and a former teammate.
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I may be wrong here but I imagine someone (some people) at City will be having a word with him about said interview, and once he has been properly integrated into the squad I would be staggered to hear anything like that again. I would also not fall on the floor dead, despite my apparent old age, if there had been some mis quotes; wouldn’t be the first time. However I am sure someone will be having a quiet word
 
Kokonut1307 said:
His Marca interview is far from graceful, especially where he talks about his 3 point ultimatum to Valencia being named captain, being one of the highest earners and having the owner directly call him for his renewal.

Personally I don’t have an issue with it, but people are acting as if we are the bastion of moral righteousness, and we would only sign humble players. I just pointed out the contrary to that, as we just signed a player who made an interview immediately after his move to bad mouth the ownership of his old club and a former teammate.
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I didn't read anything about him bad mouthing the owner, just that he didn't personally get involved.

I read him saying he didn't feel the club had shown they were particularly keen to keep him & he didn't have a great relationship with the captain.

And that he's delighted to be signing for us.
 
So if we're actually after a CM, does that mean Foden is not El Mago's successor? If we're buying a CM and playing Foden more - how does the new signing fit in?

There isn't the squad space, let alone the game time.

Or are we anticipating losing Gundogan or Bernardo?
 
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