Eric Garcia to Barcelona

[Gabriel]

I know it’s petty but I wouldn’t play Garcia at all if Barcelona are waiting to get him on a free! Why should Pep give him his experience in tactics plus keep him fit and improving. The kids made his bed let him stay in it for 12 months.

We’ll find out if Ramon Cugat can do bed sores, too.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

I know it’s petty but I wouldn’t play Garcia at all if Barcelona are waiting to get him on a free! Why should Pep give him his experience in tactics plus keep him fit and improving. The kids made his bed let him stay in it for 12 months.

It is petty and not a great look in my view. If we keep him for the last year of his contract then it has to be for a reason and not just churlishment. Otherwise we may as well accept 10m Euro.

 

[Neville Kneville]

It is petty and not a great look in my view. If we keep him for the last year of his contract then it has to be for a reason and not just churlishment. Otherwise we may as well accept 10m Euro.

Shows Garcia how much they care. If they give a shit about him & rate him, they'll pay up.

 

[waspish]

It is petty and not a great look in my view. If we keep him for the last year of his contract then it has to be for a reason and not just churlishment. Otherwise we may as well accept 10m Euro.

We wanted to keep the kid so we can have few we will sell at! it’s Barcelona who want him it’s the player who said he wants to leave to go there why should we priority a player who be gone in 12 months and not take away the priority to another youth player? Like I said Garcia has made his bed and I presume he is happy what ever happens now.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

And he would be taking opportunities from someone who wants to play for us, plus, he's fucking shite.

Shows Garcia how much they care. If they give a shit about him & rate him, they'll pay up.

Like you I don't rate him much as he is as slow as fuck. However, I don't see the punishment option as being great for the club. If we keep him for another season then not playing him makes no sense.

 

[waspish]

Like you I don't rate him much as he is as slow as fuck. However, I don't see the punishment option as being great for the club. If we keep him for another season then not playing him makes no sense.

Oh he will play but in the youth team not with the first team I would expect.

I just think there will be a deal 15m+Addons I reckon

 

[Neville Kneville]

Like you I don't rate him much as he is as slow as fuck. However, I don't see the punishment option as being great for the club. If we keep him for another season then not playing him makes no sense.

Barca have told him he is the next big thing ?

So surely, they would rather have him now for an extra few quid, than him missing a year of football ?

They wouldn't get Zinchenko for that money.

Unless they are bullshitting him of course & his future is to be farmed out to the B league.

 

[Coatigan]

Thing is. The reason Garcia is more valuable to us than his ability suggests. Is that he is club trained and doesn't take a foreign spot. Which means that we wouldn't be able to replace him with another foreign CB.



So Pep might decide that he is worth more as cover for Koulibaly (or whoever we sign). Even for a year. Than say 10m in cash. Which is nothing to us.

Exactly. Barcelona don't get him in January. They can agree a move, still have to wait next year. If he isn't worth more than 10m to them, they should look at other players perhaps

 

[Coatigan]

Agreed. But again, it's the cantera aspect - it's not a minor aspect of this transfer. Moreover, there is a real risk of widening a chasm between Pep & Barca if negotiations are drawn out or acrimonious. Won't matter the least to City fans but not the case for cules and I wager Pep as well

Cules can get tae fuck, right up their canteras.

If their club plays silly games, and it compromises their likelyhood of signing a player they supposedly want, on time, and jeopardizes a relationship with Pep, thats on them, and on the fans to see, accept, or criticize.

And believe me i say similar when i feel tixi gambles and haggles unnecessarily over pocket change.

If Barca are a big club, they can act like one, show respect to a selling club, pay their asking price and show the player and their former manager some respect too.

Pep has not held back giving his opinion on barca nonsense. Doubt he will again. Fuck the twats in their ivory towers and their lofty ungrounded opinions.

 

[Coatigan]

If barcelona don't pay what the club want, he stays and sees out his contract, barcelona wait a year. Which is a very long time in football. We still get whatever fifa decide at the end anyway.

I doubt eric would be a problem, clubs have often kept players despite them expressing a desire to leave, many have played well and then left. If pep really thomjs it Is a problem, i'm sure Celtic will happily take him on loan.

 

[HaalandEffect]

No send him on loan to Sibir Novosibirsk.

 

[Coatigan]

I can 100% see Barcelona's logic, that if we are asking 20-30m for Garcia, then they might as well go for Suyoncu for circa 40m.

The thing is, no way will they gwt him for that, Leicester will look for 50-60m.

Therefore, 20-30m for garcia is totally and utterly reasonable. Particularly for 'one of theur own'.

 

[vinny123]

No. He’s a highly entertaining poster. As long as he’s happy to post his nonsense and take the abuse, so be it. Free speech and all that.

I get the impression that FCBarca is a highly intelligent individual who was thirsty for knowledge of his own country. Once he found out Switzerland was only good for watches and clocks (fair enough), Chocolate (Belgians do that better) and having the dubious honour of giving Muesli to to the world, he was unimpressed. Once he found out his countries banks were still full of Nazi plunder from WW2 it was too much to bare and he convinced himself he was Catalan.

You want to remove this entertainment?

Ok when you put it like that fine
I concede
He stays lol

 

[Woody135]

I can 100% see Barcelona's logic, that if we are asking 20-30m for Garcia, then they might as well go for Suyoncu for circa 40m.

The thing is, no way will they gwt him for that, Leicester will look for 50-60m.

Therefore, 20-30m for garcia is totally and utterly reasonable. Particularly for 'one of theur own'.

Dont forget the cantera aspect

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Dont forget the cantera aspect

It'll be rebranded kantera when N’golo finally comes home.

 

[shak]

Loving the idea being espoused by one particularly arrogant sod on here that Pep not allowing Barca to sign Garcia will hurt his reputation with the Barca fans...

Yes he won them everything, ushered in a golden age for the club, and developed the greatest player they have ever seen. BUT if he doesn't unprofessionally allow a 19 year old "cuntera" kid go back for free, his reputation will be damaged beyond measure. Oh how fickle these supposedly die-hard fans are...

 

[FCBarca]

I think pep has a great respect for all his previous clubs, and his present one. He certainly will never be slagging mcfc. He has loved his time at City, we have loved having him. I think he would be a little embarrassed at some of your comments.

You'll have to look hard to identify a post of mine even implying Pep would/should/could show disrespect to City much less Bayern

You've let emotion get in the way of reason

 

[FCBarca]

You said yourself that the Barca board are awful. Our own club was run terribly for decades. I was still a fan, but I wouldn’t sell them a player on the cheap if I were in that position.

Indeed, I have never hidden my disdain for the board of Rosell or Bartomeu - they are a cancer

I do not agree with the premise that it is cheap - it's an oversimplification, I posted it cannot equal 'fair' market value. Not with those involved and certainly not easily - I recognize many here won't understand it or find it merely fantasy/insanity but those transfers involving a return of a youth player are unique, they always have been

And because Pep is a principal factor in all of this along with Puyol, Eric & De La Pena - there is an understanding of the long-term implications involved as well. He's managed his image post Barca impeccably, never even given a hint that he wishes anything but the best for his club irrespective of where he coaches. He has taken our players and improved them but he's never punished a youth for politics/contracts & certainly wouldn't dishonor himself with La Masia

I’ve read some strange stuff on this thread, most of it from you. But some from others about us poaching Garcia from you, and he is “poached” back we’re “outraged”. That’s not the case from my perspective or many others I know. For some reason Garcia decided to swap your academy for ours. I don’t know and neither do you. He slowly began training with the first team and eventually got some games and now has had a handful of games regularly. He hasn’t “made it”. He could be anything. Carlos Puyol as you assert, or just as likely (50/50 I would say) disappear to the lower leagues in a couple of seasons. Our attitude is “what the fuck is that all about!”

I agree, I don't know. I always assumed it was as you have already pointed out, the board is terrible and they have been treating the youths like commodities rather than fundamental cogs of the club. Or the allure of Pep, a temptation I can fully respect for a Catalan youth player, was too great. No one is more blaugrana than Pep, he's largely treated terribly by local media yet has always shown nothing but professionalism despite it. He has not, however, yet crossed any lines with the club. Some lines you cross, you can never go back

You'll have to show me when I have ever said Eric Garcia has 'made it'. He's a blue chip prospect that was part of a class of special teammates. There has never been any question he'd make it to the 1st team, the only question has been how high his ceiling might be. No one knows but a Catalan Captain at every youth level is exactly the profile of a Barca 1st team player I like seeing

 

[kaz7]

Indeed, I have never hidden my disdain for the board of Rosell or Bartomeu - they are a cancer

I do not agree with the premise that it is cheap - it's an oversimplification, I posted it cannot equal 'fair' market value. Not with those involved and certainly not easily - I recognize many here won't understand it or find it merely fantasy/insanity but those transfers involving a return of a youth player are unique, they always have been

And because Pep is a principal factor in all of this along with Puyol, Eric & De La Pena - there is an understanding of the long-term implications involved as well. He's managed his image post Barca impeccably, never even given a hint that he wishes anything but the best for his club irrespective of where he coaches. He has taken our players and improved them but he's never punished a youth for politics/contracts & certainly wouldn't dishonor himself with La Masia





I agree, I don't know. I always assumed it was as you have already pointed out, the board is terrible and they have been treating the youths like commodities rather than fundamental cogs of the club. Or the allure of Pep, a temptation I can fully respect for a Catalan youth player, was too great. No one is more blaugrana than Pep, he's largely treated terribly by local media yet has always shown nothing but professionalism despite it. He has not, however, yet crossed any lines with the club. Some lines you cross, you can never go back

You'll have to show me when I have ever said Eric Garcia has 'made it'. He's a blue chip prospect that was part of a class of special teammates. There has never been any question he'd make it to the 1st team, the only question has been how high his ceiling might be. No one knows but a Catalan Captain at every youth level is exactly the profile of a Barca 1st team player I like seeing

not crossed any lines? He specifically told barca in a press conference to butt out about talking about our ban as he knows things happen at the wonderful,perfect Spanish rags as well,never have I read such arrogant,false romantic view about a club,you out do the dippers,tick tock to messi retiring

 

[HaalandEffect]

Swap him with Jean-Clair Todibo