Scotlands new Hate speech/crime bill.

[urban genie]

Seems to have caused a kerfuffle.

 

[Ban-jani]

"This offence could even be applied to being in possession of materials produced by someone else, where sharing the material could stir up hatred.

"The unintended consequences of this well meaning bill risk stifling freedom of expression, and the ability to articulate or criticise religious and other beliefs."

This is grim

 

[hilts]

Seems to have caused a kerfuffle.

We can’t call @Magicpole a jock ****?

 

[blueinsa]

So long as they can still hate the English im sure many wont mind.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Ffs give them their own parliament and they go and fuck everything up. My kids could come up with better thought out legislation

 

[Fame Monster]

This is what happens when society has very little/nowhere left to go in terms of stamping out institutional racism but wants to virtue-signal how anti-racist it is.

The fact they're making a lot of these offences strict liability shows how little they prize freedom of expression.

 

[Ban-jani]

sticks and stones may break my bones but if you say anything I don’t like I’m gonna lock you up you wee ****

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Is there anything about verbally abusing ginger's in this bill?

 

[Ban-jani]

Gobsmacked this thread is so quiet. An attack on free speech within Britain and not even 2 pages.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

The Scots have always hated speech, that's why they come out with all their "och aye" grunting

 

[mat]

Is there anything about verbally abusing ginger's in this bill?

It's under Paragraph 42 section 8

"The C U Jimmy clause"

 

[mat]

Sturgeon has a couple of skeletons in her cupboard it's great for protecting her should they come out.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Sturgeon has a couple of skeletons in her cupboard it's great for protecting her should they come out.

I did wonder if this legislation is anything to do with keeping Salmond quiet

 

[Coatigan]

I don't get the outrage.

As I have no intention of committing crime based on prejudice (or any for that matter, but for the sake of the context of this thread), I don't have a problem with it. Nor do I feel it in any way impacts freedom of speech.

It deals with behaviour that is BOTH criminal and prejudicial. And from what i can see what is already covered in the equality act.

Admittedly haven't read all the detail, and i could yet change my mind once clearer on the specifics. But i doubt the knee jerk hysteria lot have read any more, if any, of it.

It has been in the pipeline for years, so i find it laughable that it would have anything to do with salmond.



As an aside, (i really wanted to avoid linking the two, but it is relevant) with us leaving the EU and with that all the rights protected by default, with the absence of a constitution in the UK, and the Tories pledge to abolish the human rights bill, I can only take it as a positive layer, if not as extensive.

 

[blueinsa]

Gobsmacked this thread is so quiet. An attack on free speech within Britain and not even 2 pages.

I'm not in the least bit surprised it's so quiet.

 

[BobKowalski]

Probably because in the rush to condemn it none of you actually bothered to highlight the parts you objected to and why.

Also, since you chaps surely have no intention of breaking this law then there is nothing to worry about. That’s how it works, right?

 

[blueinsa]

Probably because in the rush to condemn it none of you actually bothered to highlight the parts you objected to and why.

Also, since you chaps surely have no intention of breaking this law then there is nothing to worry about. That’s how it works, right?

Will the singing of Flower of Scotland now be banned as hate speech?

Personally i hope not as it would be frankly a fucking ridiculous thing to do even with its clear anti English sentiment but if not, why not and it begs the question who will decide what falls under this legislation and will it be biased in its application?

We have laws in this country that means hate speech and racism are already tackled and i can see this being a huge can or worms that is binned off as fast as it was brought in because it will be unmanageable and it will be seen as an attack on the freedom of speech.

 

[Coatigan]

Probably because in the rush to condemn it none of you actually bothered to highlight the parts you objected to and why.

Also, since you chaps surely have no intention of breaking this law then there is nothing to worry about. That’s how it works, right?

and chapettes, gonnae naw discriminate, pal.

 

[Ban-jani]

Probably because in the rush to condemn it none of you actually bothered to highlight the parts you objected to and why.

Also, since you chaps surely have no intention of breaking this law then there is nothing to worry about. That’s how it works, right?

I literally did on page one Bob, either I’m now on mute or you’re purposefully ignorant.

 

[bugsyblue]

I don't get the outrage.

As I have no intention of committing crime based on prejudice (or any for that matter, but for the sake of the context of this thread), I don't have a problem with it. Nor do I feel it in any way impacts freedom of speech.

It deals with behaviour that is BOTH criminal and prejudicial. And from what i can see what is already covered in the equality act.

Admittedly haven't read all the detail, and i could yet change my mind once clearer on the specifics. But i doubt the knee jerk hysteria lot have read any more, if any, of it.

It has been in the pipeline for years, so i find it laughable that it would have anything to do with salmond.



As an aside, (i really wanted to avoid linking the two, but it is relevant) with us leaving the EU and with that all the rights protected by default, with the absence of a constitution in the UK, and the Tories pledge to abolish the human rights bill, I can only take it as a positive layer, if not as extensive.

It' the usual hateful few "outraged" at this bill. Britain's version of the US gun lobby nutters.