Scotlands new Hate speech/crime bill.

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

It seems to me that the people drafting this Bill could be the very same who are fuckin' up the LotG to make them fit VAR situations.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I dare wager it hitting the height of irony when a high profile snp member says/does something stupid and gets done under the legislation they brought in.

that's anytime they campaign for independence. Highly offensive and hateful against the Union.

 

[Magicpole]

Oh for fuck sake.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Me neither and couldn't actually give a flying fig about it in reality as im certain it will not change my life one little bit.

That doesnt mean its not shit legislation though but time and cases brought will be the judge of that.

Lets have a nationalist sing song say I....

That maudlin shite reminds me of the one about Braveheart, good film,and the happy ending made it better ;)

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Whether you intend to 'stir up hatred' or not is irrelevant to most of the provisions.

The test now is whether by sending abusive material, you are likely to stir up hatred against anybody because of their race, religion, sex, and even age.

So when Bernardo posted that supposed lookalike of Mendy, we had plenty of people agreeing and disagreeing that it was racially insulting but pretty much everyone agreed that he didn't mean it to be given that he's best mates with Mendy. In Scotland, that won't be relevant. He'll be looking at a maximum of 7 years in prison for a speech crime.

What's more outrageous is that even the possession of that material will now be deemed a crime.

This is what our brave new world looks like and the fact that you have dyed-in-the-wool SNP supporters criticising St Nicola should tell you this is a pretty nasty piece of legislation.

Spot on.

Hate speech is already a crime. Legislation like this is censoring and punishment of free speech and humour.

Hopefully Franky Boyle lives in England, otherwise he’s going to spend life in prison in Scotland.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Ive no doubt I’m not going to be arrested for carrying a Bible in Edinburgh

Will I be alright carrying a copy of Razzle?

 

[blueinsa]

That maudlin shite reminds me of the one about Braveheart, good film,and the happy ending made it better ;)

I like the way its largely mumbled whilst everyone blasts the bit about sending us home again.

I must however remember not to call someone a Jock as i don't fancy the sentence of being hung, drawn and quartered that will follow under this unbiased and totally fair legislation.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Hopefully Franky Boyle lives in England, otherwise he’s going to spend life in prison in Scotland.

If he does live in England, I'd want this legislation installed here.

 

[hgblue]

If he does live in England, I'd want this legislation installed here.

Agreed, but it should only apply to Scots ;)

 

[stonerblue]

First paragraph that’s true, I just feel uneasy about putting in legislation that can be abused by an unreasonable leadership in future.

2nd paragraph that’s definitely true and there were criticisms at the time but there is a line out there somewhere and we need to make sure we don’t cross it.

If I racially abuse you and harass you, that’s a crime as it stands and should be, carrying a book of whatever sort, even Mein Kampf, shouldn’t be illegal, that’s over the line.

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