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Kalidou Koulibaly
- Thread starter Matt Diablo
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Angelino is arguably the most valuable of the three, given age, experience, and potential, yet you value him least.
Yes because he is yet to prove himself properly at the highest level. When we bought him back for £5/6m he was valued then at about £20m but had been playing in the dutch league. I think we have devalued him by bringing him back, hardly playing him and loaning him back out tbh.
Who is buying Angelino for £30m? And when do you think we’ll get £20m from Barcelona?
Admire your optimism but reckon we’ll be taking substantial hits on all three. ;-)
Sorry...you think we're taking a "hit" on a LB we bought for £5m and is starting a CL 1/4 final tonight after being a standout player since arrving at Leipzig, and a CB we got for nothing?
I'd like a hit of whatever you're smoking.
City_Sean
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He's not nearly 30. He turned 29 at the end of June. He won't be 30 until we're playing the 21/22 season.
Look at this way.
20/21 - 29 all season
21/22 - 30 all season
22/23 - 31 all season
23/24 - 32 all season
24/25 - 33 all season
25/26 - 34 all season
Terry was 35 and starting regularly for Chelsea. Vinnie left at 33 (and we all know that was because of injuries really and Anderlecht's draw, not cos he wasn't good enough still). Ramos is 34 and still key for Real Madrid. Ferdinand left United at 34 etc etc.
It's genuinely reasonable to presume that as long KK has no severe injuries, he's got 4/5 seasons at a very high level left. Defenders are very fit these days and can play into their early mid 30s no problem.
I've made a similar point before to this and it really rings true. If KDB came on the market now would you turn down a move as he's the same age? No you wouldn't. Age isn't a factor when you're a CB, you don't run as much as a midfield or wide player.
£15m for Garcia I reckon, £10-£15m for Otamendi and Angelino about £7m can't see any more than that tbh. Definitely wouldn't pay for Koulibaly.
I don't know what planet you're on, but PSG wanted him for £25m last season, and since then he's gone and impressed in Germany, a step up from the Netherlands where he was the best LB in the country.
£7m won't cover his salary at his next club.
Taylor
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Twitter, please keep up
You mean the same journalist who said in the last hour that a deal for £58m could be close
asahartford1
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We are either in for him or we're not.
Nothing they say will change anything. If we're not bidding already then we already have the money assigned elsewhere.
True,
But that doesn't stop agents touting their players for a pay day. Doesn't stop italian presidents looking to cash in on older players, and certainly doesn't stop mercenaries like Duncan Castles.
And you are right, none of the hype by those people will affect or convince the club to make a rash decision.
Don't understand why the valuation is causing too much of a debate between fans. If Koulibaly wins us the league, improves our defence and helps us to challenge in Europe against the world's best he's going to be worth every penny. A defence is where clubs win titles, and that's exactly why Liverpool battered the league this season. The brilliance of Van Dijk and the absence of Laporte is exactly why we finished 18 points behind them.
Totally agree and the drop of in form this season probably due to all the issues at Napoli.He's not nearly 30. He turned 29 at the end of June. He won't be 30 until we're playing the 21/22 season.
Look at this way.
20/21 - 29 all season
21/22 - 30 all season
22/23 - 31 all season
23/24 - 32 all season
24/25 - 33 all season
25/26 - 34 all season
Terry was 35 and starting regularly for Chelsea. Vinnie left at 33 (and we all know that was because of injuries really and Anderlecht's draw, not cos he wasn't good enough still). Ramos is 34 and still key for Real Madrid. Ferdinand left United at 34 etc etc.
It's genuinely reasonable to presume that as long KK has no severe injuries, he's got 4/5 seasons at a very high level left. Defenders are very fit these days and can play into their early mid 30s no problem.
Almost anarchy there early season and a owner that seems hated by everyone.
Taylor
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Twitter, please keep up
You mean the same journalist who said in the last hour that a deal for £58m could be close