Angelino is not good enough, he is a liability as a defender.
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Centurions
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When we brought Angelino back, Mendy on the injury table looked more effective.TBF Angelino looks good at Leipzig, not sure he was genuinely given a chance. Never got the leeway Mendy has had
Remember anfield?When we brought Angelino back, Mendy on the injury table looked more effective.
Indeed.
But then again we did just give £41m to a relegated team for a back up centre half...
Not really. He can play several positions and may well end up as our first choice LB. Also, Laporte better pull up his socks, or he's going to find himself as the backup
Gabriel
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If we sign Koulibaly and have Laporte, then Ake will be back up to the latter, but I hope he does indeed fight him for his position. Should probably start the season with him and allow Laporte time to recover fully. I just don’t want to see him become another utility player, however.Not really. He can play several positions and may well end up as our first choice LB. Also, Laporte better pull up his socks, or he's going to find himself as the backup
NorthamptonBlue
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Pep doesn’t want a player like that in the role. Hence Gündy, Rodri, Jorginho etc. Don’t see us signing the new Nigel de Jong anytime soon
What a shame. He was fun.
If we sign Koulibaly and have Laporte, then Ake will be back up to the latter, but I hope he does indeed fight him for his position. Should probably start the season with him and allow Laporte time to recover fully. I just don’t want to see him become another utility player, however.
Ake can definitely push Laporte, who hasn’t been spectacular at all since he returned from injury.
Gabriel
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Players need time to recover and we probably asked too much of him too quickly. As you say, Ake should push him, and vice versa, but they should also allow each to be rested.Ake can definitely push Laporte, who hasn’t been spectacular at all since he returned from injury.
How many stinkers have Mendy and Cancelo had?Remember anfield?
Plenty, but i have not seen them utterly and totally destroyed.How many stinkers have Mendy and Cancelo had?
It was sad to witness and simply not fair on the guy.
I think it is unfair to judge him on one game up against Salah. My view on Angelino is he looks too small but then Marcelo's no giant.Plenty, but i have not seen them utterly and totally destroyed.
It was sad to witness and simply not fair on the guy.
I tend to agree with a previous poster that lots of the defenders we've had looked poor playing for us.
Denayer and Angelino, Boateng all in the CL semi finals. While Savic has had a pretty good career too.
Gabriel
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Watched the game again and while Angelino wasn’t great, he wasn’t alone. Gundogan passed the buck for the first goal and third.I think it is unfair to judge him on one game up against Salah. My view on Angelino is he looks too small but then Marcelo's no giant.
I tend to agree with a previous poster that lots of the defenders we've had looked poor playing for us.
Denayer and Angelino, Boateng all in the CL semi finals. While Savic has had a pretty good career too.
Angelino is taller than Couto and tailor-made for the wingback role, which of course we never play, unless up against Lyon in a one-off game...
He was still a threat going forward as wellWatched the game again and while Angelino wasn’t great, he wasn’t alone. Gundogan passed the buck for the first goal and third.
Angelino is taller than Couto and tailor-made for the wingback role, which of course we never play, unless up against Lyon in a one-off game...
BufordUSABlue
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Ake can definitely push Laporte, who hasn’t been spectacular at all since he returned from injury.
Agreed - but i thinking we are in the minority pal!
Agreed - but i thinking we are in the minority pal!
Can I join this boat? I think it’s necessary to have competition. It pushes both players. In addition, it may cause the potential of one or the other to be drawn out (example: Alphonso Davies/Alaba)
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But he is a player Pep did not want to leave, so he must see a player in him.
I think he has all the tools to go to the very top, but he is still very, very raw right now. i would prefer he stayed at Villa one more season so we get more of an idea of whether he is ready to make that next big step.
If we sign Koulibaly and have Laporte, then Ake will be back up to the latter, but I hope he does indeed fight him for his position. Should probably start the season with him and allow Laporte time to recover fully. I just don’t want to see him become another utility player, however.
You quoted my post, but dont seem to have read it
One more season adds 10m to his buyback I think?I think he has all the tools to go to the very top, but he is still very, very raw right now. i would prefer he stayed at Villa one more season so we get more of an idea of whether he is ready to make that next big step.
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ADegenerate
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What’s the rule with this guy? We had a two year option to buyback and that expired? It’s been declined and he’s getting a new deal. My mates a villa fan and he said something about the visa belonging to villa, which didn’t make sense, didnt press it though.
The talks been of him getting a new contract. How’s that happen If we have the option for another year?
Seems like the option has expired based off of all that. Surely worth a 25m buyback and resale at the very minimum or we just playing nice with villa?
The talks been of him getting a new contract. How’s that happen If we have the option for another year?
Seems like the option has expired based off of all that. Surely worth a 25m buyback and resale at the very minimum or we just playing nice with villa?
Centurions
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So Angelino was both good enough and NOT good enough at one and the same time? Interesting way to look at things.Plenty, but i have not seen them utterly and totally destroyed.
It was sad to witness and simply not fair on the guy.