It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

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Messi could beat three men in a phone-box. Fastest feet in football. Perfect
against ten men in the penalty area. On the down-side , the Rodney Marsh
episode shows how things can go badly wrong with this type of signing.
Much as i would like it to happen, deep down, cannot see it, sadly.
 
messi on the right,sergio in the middle,raheem on the left,kev feeding,rodri sweeping,kyle and mendy giving width,eric and koublakhan holding the line,aour/foden buzzing around, fucking hell what a team.


sergio

raheem messi
kev
aouer
rodri
mendy walker
eric koublekhan

eddi

took me ages to put them in their on field fucking positions :(
 
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Quite the opposite, we actually take notice of what makes City and every other top European side exciting and also difficult to beat. That's pace, intensity and aggression when pressing combined with ability.

If you don't combine the two, you have weaknesses that can be exploited and subsequently can't compete at the highest level. We want the best for our team as well, we just see things differently and explain why rather than spouting "it's Messi". It's probably the same posters who were telling everyone else we would be shit when Toure left because we hadn't replaced him like for like, when in fact we were a far superior team without him because we could combine both elements of high intensity pressing and ability.

While i agree with some of your your are already deciding that Messi cant press. You are also forgetting that we pretty much stopped high pressing regualrly last season - not cause we couldnt but because for whatever reason Pep decided not to - we returned to it against Madrid but for most of the season we werent pressing with the same intensity regardless. We arent like Liverpool under klopp and never have been
 
messi on the right,sergio in the middle,raheem on the left,kev feeding,rodri sweeping,kyle and mendy giving width,eric and koublakhan holding the line,aour/foden buzzing around, fucking hell what a team.


sergio

raheem messi
kev
aouer
rodri
mendy walker
eric koublekhan

eddi
Who's this Koublekhan fella?
Just checked,can't see a thread.
 
I see there are 2 sides to this argument so I thought I'd make a summary of the pros and cons.


+ Greatest player in history plays for Man City.
+ Scores 30 goals and gets 30 assists a season.
+ Plays the best football you're ever going to see.
+ Tends to make everyone around him play better.
+ Will probably make Pep stop doubting the side.
+ Brings in a ton of money.
+ Upsets millions of rival fans.


- People might be mean about us buying him.
- We don't know how much of someone's else's money it will cost.

Rarely played a decent game with Aguero.
Plays in a free role, with team built around him.
KDB often plays a free role in our team.
Will be playing in a higher intensity league, at 34 where many of our younger attackers have picked up injuries.
Takes all the pressure off Pep , to build a new team & allows him to do a Pellegrini, seeing out a 3 year deal tied to Messi, then leave, with whatever situation behind him.
Teams will be more keen to stop us, again rather than stopping Liverpool, whose turn it should be for the treatment.

Players who don't fit in with Messi, will effectively be finished at City, even if they are key members of the 'team' with all the possible resentment that brings in, with their team mates.

Pep might go mental & leave, if results don't go his way & he loses inspiration (we do still have to defend & Barca can't do it for example) .

Imo Messi will have no problem in the Prem but no guarantee the team will not lose out in other areas.
 
He is still the best player on the planet

In the attacking phase of the game, yes, mostly against crap La Liga teams. Did he look like the best player in the world when Barca got smashed by Roma, Liverpool and Bayern? Has he been the best player in the CL since 2016? NO.

This season in the CL, Messi contributed a goal/assist every 110 minutes. In comparison, the much maligned on here Jesus contributed a goal/assist every 60 minutes.

However, and here comes the really bad part, football is also about defending well, and modern football about defending well from the front by high pressing. When it comes to defending, Messi is literally worse than a conference player. An U18 player would be more useful than him when defending.

Hope our bosses do not invest 250m in a 33 y.o. player who contributes only in the attacking phase of the game and whose career in England might be ruined by a daft challenge by some random old-style defender.
 
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