George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

[SWP's back]

Man, I physically applauded that Brother.

You'd think the other two would have followed in support, but they need to be on TV.

*smh*

And yet Dax thinks he’s an asshole for it. Go figure...

 

[Bigga]

Dunno what had gone on before the Rittenhouse vid doing the rounds but based on the video alone it's is a pretty clear case of self defence

This is why you don't base your conclusions off what you see in situations like this.

Sure, it looks like 'self defence', but in video I've seen you can clearly hear people saying that Rittenhouse had shot people prior to his catching a beating and thus killing two more people.

I'm starting to realise people, like yourself, cannot be reasoned with.

 

[Bigga]

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Again with the non answers. We all know what you think they should not have done, what we are asking is for you to give your breakdown of what they should have.

Be detailed if you can. Tell us what point in the video you as the cop would have subdued and disarm him.

Yes when he has just a knife, hey didn't shoot him. It was when he opened the door to his car to seemingly get something else that they did

A) Still awaiting the knife evidence. Can you just post it, please, as I haven't seen any proof of it yet?

Thanks.

B) "seemingly"

C) How many officers were tackling Blake at the other side of the car? Any handcuffs used? How is it one adult male can get away from three adult males and WALK to the side of his car?

D) At what point, using your critical thinking, do you conclude the 'threat' is...?

Cheers.

 

[Bigga]

If I thought he was reaching for a gun, I’d have shot him.

There was clearly no respect shown to the legal authority the officer was trying to assert.

As I have said previously, better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

You'd have drawn your weapon and shot if you thought he was reaching for a gun, but not not when he had this 'knife' as others have said, nor at the point of this actual scuffle with three officers...?

You had a chance to give a comprehensive answer and so you chose your conclusion. So, before I get the inevitable "I didn't say that" or "You're putting words in my mouth" I have to reasonably assume the rest of what I said about your unspoken answer to be true.

Thanks, at least we got there.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

How do you still not understand that discussing budgets and defunding are the same thing? It’s reducing and reallocating the funds, not abolishing the police. The US already spends more per capita on policing than any other developed nation, is it working?

You keep banging that drum and highlighting what we know you don’t know.

Look, I understand the reasoning that has evolved after the initial slogans.
What I'm saying is that the BLM organisation is not saying what you're saying, and the fact that a prominent politician has categorically stated defunding means exactly what it says.

 

[Bigga]

So a cop kneels for 8 minutes on the neck of an unarmed man who's overdosed but can still say "I can't breathe" until he dies.

No, no no!!

The officer was about to kneel as he was tired from standing when Floyd threw his neck under Chauvin's knee, despite Chauvin's protestations. Floyd continued to make shit up about not breathing as Chauvin tried to stand up, but Floyd insisted Chauvin stay where he was for 8 mins 46 secs and asked his mother to help keep the officer where his was.

Get your story straight, man!!

 

[Ban-jani]

If you think the Blake shooting was about that, you are being intellectually dishonest and ignoring reality.

I don’t and he’s not dead.

I was half joking but in reality take guns out of the picture on both sides and so many more people live.

 

[blueinsa]

What, no golf?

He'd go crazy, holed up in the White House. Oh, wait...

The lawns are his and its about time they got turned into a 9 hole anyway.

"Great....really really great"

 

[Ancient Citizen]

"Discussing budgets"??

It just goes to show how you don't think for yourself. At this point in time there are 13 cities involved in defunding or about to defund the police.

So, I won't ask you again, what you THINK it means, as it's entirely pointless to get you to enunciate any clear critical thinking on the subject.

Well done.

Ok mate, that darling of the left AOC's message to the world is obviously too much for you to to try and rationalise, as it's a bit of a contrast to just discussing budgets.
Mustn't discuss that, must we?

 

[Dax777]

I have seen the limited video, and have also read other accounts of the events leading up to and after what is captured in the video, and anyone saying it is a “pretty clear case of self defence”, before any findings of any sort of detailed investigation and analysis of the full events have been released, is being intellectually dishonest (with themselves and others).

Had they said “it *may* be self defence, I will have to read more about the full events on either side of the video, and see what comes of the investigation” it would be much less problematic.

So you are not really disagreeing with his claim that based on what was on the clip it looked like a "clear case of self defense." You are simply saying there may be other information missing from prior and after the clip that might change that conclusion. I don't particularly think he'd disagree with you on that. That's why he limited his analysis to just the clip.

BTW, what were the accounts of the events leading up to the video that you've read, if you don't mind sharing?

 

[blueinsa]

I get self defence but being chased down a street after shooting some poor **** with an assault rifle and then shooting some poor cunts again with said assault rifle is not and never will be, self defence.

Its fucked up is what it is. It is murder.

The years of specialist training needed to handle and operate weapons like this and a society thinks it's perfectly fine to stick one on a shelf, next to a tin of beans and let any fucker walk in off the street and buy it and then brag they can open carry in society is beyond bonkers.

 

[Bigga]

Ok mate, that darling of the left AOC's message to the world is obviously too much for you to to try and rationalise, as it's a bit of a contrast to just discussing budgets.
Mustn't discuss that, must we?

So...

When you're asked about what YOUR thoughts are on a subject you cite someone else as an answer...?

Let's say you were in school (?) and your English teacher asked you what you thought of... I dunno, Frodo and Sam's relationship in 'The Lord of the Rings'. Your answer would have been to cite what your classmate wrote down about it...??

How did you you ever get through school and life...?

 

[Dax777]

Or, perhaps, he wasn't sure WHAT he was going to do, until instinct decided for him.

And, most likely, he was fighting the instinct to walk off set too as that's Human behaviour; to be conflicted about your instinct.

You're so quick to judge that you can't think of anything alternative to your conclusions.

To think I thought you were coming along as a person...

Your ability to make up dumb shit us astounding. It was a publicity stunt. An asshole move. If he was conflicted, he could have asked his co-workers. Sought there support to all do it together. But no, he wanted the spotlight, at the expense of his brothers and co-host for years.

Such a dick move.

 

[Dax777]

You're an idiot.

This is why Americans don't get British sarcasm and why TV is oversimplified for you, just so you can feel a part of intellectual society.

Awww, someone is resorting to insults. It sounds like someone doesn't like being wrong :(

 

[Dax777]

Pre-empting compliance?

You are mad.

He's approaching cops with an automatic weapon. Several times he lowers his hand to the weapon.

He's white.

Ok

 

[Bigga]

Your ability to make up dumb shit us astounding. It was a publicity stunt. An asshole move. If he was conflicted, he could have asked his co-workers. Sought there support to all do it together. But no, he wanted the spotlight, at the expense of his brothers and co-host for years.

Such a dick move.

MY ability??? That's rich coming from you!!

I'm not the one making judgements about about a person who took an action on TV, not knowing he'd have a job to return to.

A) How do you know he didn't ask his co-workers about the subject? Were you there...??

B) How do you know he didn't keep his own counsel on the matter before making a decision, right there and then??

You don't.

But, it seems you are the All Seeing Eye of Bluemoon.

You need to sort your head out.

 

[Bigga]

Awww, someone is resorting to insults. It sounds like someone doesn't like being wrong :(

Again, absorb the info as a whole.

Do yourself a favour and apply some... just SOME critical thinking to subject matter and reading posts.

Thanks.

 

[Blue Hefner]

I'll just leave this here.......

 

[Dax777]

And yet Dax thinks he’s an asshole for it. Go figure...

He is. He made his co-workers look like dicks.. These are people he calls friends. 2 of them were black.

I mean, NBA players are Protesting and a TV personality who is black and an wx-nba player rather than help express why they have postponed the games and how this was necessary, he made himself the story.

His an ass!

 

[Ancient Citizen]

So...

When you're asked about what YOUR thoughts are on a subject you cite someone else as an answer...?

Let's say you were in school (?) and your English teacher asked you what you thought of... I dunno, Frodo and Sam's relationship in 'The Lord of the Rings'. Your answer would have been to cite what your classmate wrote down about it...??

How did you you ever get through school and life...?

My answer is that a discussion about police budgets is perfectly reasonable, fine and OK, and if, after these discussions have taken place, there is a consensus to remove police funding and allocate it to other departments, I'm perfectly OK with that too. In fact I have said this numerous times, in various ways, on here, check it out if you like. Now, if you can absorb and understand that, and accept it is a stance probably near to the thoughts of most normal people, we're hunky dory.
So, as that clearly reasonable view should be mutually acceptable, why does AOC, and many City mayors, all in places where rioting is endemic, not want this, but want to simply defund them, no clever math, as she puts it, simply defund?
Ask your old schoolmates if you like.