Lionel Messi | Joins Inter Miami (pg4111)

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OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
But it remains that if he’s under contract that he has a value as an asset to the club (ok decided by a court) and if he’s a free agent Barca have no say.
Additionally, if he’s under contract to Barca and we take him we’ll be punished as a club under EUFA rules (is it rule 17 that says that a club that takes a player under contract to another club is considered to have brought about the breach and that set punishments / transfer bans etc. follow?).
Thus it remains that the key issue is, is he under contract or not because even if a court can set compensation (as applies to the UK as well as a basic component of contract law) we can’t employ him without agreement from Barca, which could only to be gained by paying them what they want, because the punishment by the football competitions authorities would be crippling to us.
Is he under contract or not, and if under contract what will Barca sell him for, remain the key issues would be the case if the release clause was still active.
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You are misunderstanding the situation - if the value is set by a judge this is done retroactively. Messi is allowed to leave, without the fee being resolved. This is allowed, it has happened with other players in Spain - UEFA have no remit to involve themselves. He can request a transfer certificate from FIFA right now. He has the RIGHT, to unilaterally terminate his own contract if the release clause has expired, and to sign for another team.

This is exciting because the judge would take in to account his wages and probably Ronaldo’s transfer fee (when he had a 3 year contract) - so if it goes to a judge we are looking at paying less than €100m.

This significantly increases our bargaining position and weakens Barca’s - who thought they had a buy out clause.
 
raghavk said:
I feel he can just randomly pop up in Manchester and live there. Just because there are rumours of him going to us doesn't mean we're liable. United are there too so Barcelona can't just sue us on the assumption or rumours right?
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I agree, but the whole footballing world is still reeling with the CAS outcome. Why give them a loaded gun? Stay clear of any public relations with Messi. Doesn't mean we cant look for a place for him and chat to him regularly.
 
raghavk said:
I feel he can just randomly pop up in Manchester and live there. Just because there are rumours of him going to us doesn't mean we're liable. United are there too so Barcelona can't just sue us on the assumption or rumours right?
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"Your honour, our client's purchase of an apartment in Manchester is not evidence of his desire to play for Manchester City. In fact, he intended to play for Burnley, but in a way that allowed him to live as far away from Burnley as possible".
 
@BluePhil8 said:
You are misunderstanding the situation - if the value is set by a judge this is done retroactively. Messi is allowed to leave, without the fee being resolved. This is allowed, it has happened with other players in Spain - UEFA have no remit to involve themselves. He can request a transfer certificate from FIFA right now. He has the RIGHT, to unilaterally terminate his own contract if the release clause has expired, and to sign for another team.

This is exciting because the judge would take in to account his wages and probably Ronaldo’s transfer fee (when he had a 3 year contract) - so if it goes to a judge we are looking at paying less than €100m.

This significantly increases our bargaining position and weakens Barca’s - who thought they had a buy out clause.
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Well let's hope the judge is a Real Madrid fan,
 
Corky said:
i saw him do nothing in an 8-2 defeat his last match, a passenger in a massive game. Why not sign Rivaldo, Maradona or Bebeto? Surely these are good players if you go by name only.
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And I was amazing in the last game I played, but it doesn’t make me an amazing player (that’s actually a lie, I was never amazing in any game, but I’m sure you get the point)
 
Gummidge said:
I hope I'm wrong, I really do, but I stand by it. Barcelona get plenty of ref protection, he'll get none of that here I'm afraid.
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I’m not sure, he’ll be the jewel in the crown of the PL and will make our league even more commercially attractive than it is now.
Also, there will be so much scrutiny on him that the refs will have to protect him.
I hope so anyway.
 
waspish said:
If Messi believes he isn’t a Barcelona player and they fine him for not showing up that then can be challenged by Messi’s lawyers.
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Challenge what, fining means docking wages. If he’s not an employee he wouldn’t be paid by Barcelona so nothing to challenge
 
the talisman said:
I’m not sure, he’ll be the jewel in the crown of the PL and will make our league even more commercially attractive than it is now.
Also, there will be so much scrutiny on him that the refs will have to protect him.
I hope so anyway.
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That's why every other club should be glad if we pull this off. Their tv income will be increasing even more
 
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