Kalidou Koulibaly

[nmc]

Don't know why Tolmie says it could be off? Napoli's entire summer window aside Osimhen depends on the sale of Koulibaly because the defensive targets they have will be very cheap and they can also get Boga from Sassuolo for €30m or so, a very important target for them that even ADL has been vocal about. Also this €75m talk makes sense since they usually don't spend big unless they aren't selling, Koulibaly's value is the highest it is right now and would be about half next year. They would then have to sell Fabian Ruiz or another young player for good money to balance books, so it has to be this window.

Just because Napoli need to sell - doesn’t mean we have to buy.

 

[skyblues]

Just because Napoli need to sell - doesn’t mean we have to buy.

Who cares what Napoli need? We need a top defender, and we should therefore pay up.

 

[leo_city]

Strongly doubt we’ll get this done. Di Marzio is pretty reliable on transfers and if PSG are now in the mix, we took too long to conduct this highly important piece of business. So fucking stupid, just pride arguing over a few million when our defence is as bad as it is.

or DiMarzio could be briefed by ADL to put this out in an attempt to hurry City to close this deal by reaching the figure asked. I would be highly surprised if PSG considered themselves out of this whole saga to get Koulibaly and all of a sudden only now think they can get him

 

[leo_city]

Just because Napoli need to sell - doesn’t mean we have to buy.

But he is clearly our top target for centre back? Of course we don't have to buy, but it's only our loss if we don't so...

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

After giving it some thought, I'd prefer we go for a younger up and coming centre back who's already showing great potential. Kounde or Upamecano for me.

 

[MillionDollarDream]

or DiMarzio could be briefed by ADL to put this out in an attempt to hurry City to close this deal by reaching the figure asked. I would be highly surprised if PSG considered themselves out of this whole saga to get Koulibaly and all of a sudden only now think they can get him

PSG only sold Thiago Silva recently. This should’ve been wrapped up before Ake.

 

[Damanino]

Would laugh my ass off if PSG comes in offers 75m euros and closes the deal within 2 days and Napoli des a jorginho on us again.

What Txiki would do next to deal for a new Napoli player after that? Wold he trust again having a player agent do negotiation for us instead of doing it ourselves?

Haggling over 5-10m euros of bonuses is a joke when you need a top CB so much and you have been punished so much not having it all last year.

If we really need that extra 5-10m euros maybe dont be so easy on selling players for peanuts like Angelino deal.
I bet when we sell Stones it will be closer to 10m than to 30m.
Now Chelsea would sell him for 35 or something...

 

[mcfc482]

Probably trying to be too smart.

ADL clearly wants to sell at this is the last chance to get any sort of fee at 60+

once he turns 30 the value will take a significant drop.

The closer we get to the end of the window the lower the fee goes if you are playing this game of bluff.

 

[skyblues]

Would laugh my ass off if PSG comes in offers 75m euros and closes the deal within 2 days and Napoli des a jorginho on us again.

What Txiki would do next to deal for a new Napoli player after that? Wold he trust again having a player agent do negotiation for us instead of doing it ourselves?

Haggling over 5-10m euros of bonuses is a joke when you need a top CB so much and you have been punished so much not having it all last year.

If we really need that extra 5-10m euros maybe dont be so easy on selling players for peanuts like Angelino deal.
I bet when we sell Stones it will be closer to 10m than to 30m.
Now Chelsea would sell him for 35 or something...

We’re awful at selling players. That’s what happens when you have too much money.
Buying players for cut prices is all about an egoboost for the negotiator, show the world you’re a skillful businessman.
Selling players? ”eh fuck it, let’s take the hit, we got money”.

It’s not like we can’t afford Koulibaly. This is just an egotrip and staredown from both parties. Almost want this to fail just so they learn a fucking lesson. It’ll be a very costly mistake from us if we fail, no doubt.

 

[Greenjob]

Would we be shinfing over a few million if Garry Cook were still holding the purse??

 

[King Jay]

Goddamn go for upamecano then. F**k ADL

 

[CenturyClub]

Hmmm, interesting.

This could be a tactic of Napoli's to brief the media so we hurry and pay up for Koulibaly. If it isn't and the interest with PSG is genuine, then Txiki really has dropped a clanger.

We went a couple of seasons without getting an understudy for Fernandinho, luckily for us it didn't cost us. Can we go another season without replacing Vincent Kompany? Absolutely no chance.

Pep would have been fuming to miss out on Maguire last summer, he will be absolutely and i mean absolutely raging to miss out on Koulibaly this window. We have wasted almost our entire summer trying to wrap this deal up and still are nowhere near close to getting it done.

Txiki needs to get this done, i don't care what it costs... we are absolutely desperate and i mean DESPERATE for a top CB. Our defence needs leadership, it needs a commanding presence in there alongside Laporte. Txiki needs to realise that he is putting Pep's reputation on the line here. He HAS to deliver.

If he does not deliver this window, it is time to employ someone else who can manage to get deals over the line with as little fuss as possible and assign Txiki a new role within the club.

I think our window really rests on this transfer. If we don't bring Koulibaly in, we have no chance of winning the Premier League or getting close to winning the CL. I still think we need a LB and another midfielder or forward player as well as Koulibaly, but not bringing in a top CB like Koulibaly would be the definition of a disastrous window.

 

[slicky202]

Hmmm, interesting.

This could be a tactic of Napoli's to brief the media so we hurry and pay up for Koulibaly. If it isn't and the interest with PSG is genuine, then Txiki really has dropped a clanger.

We went a couple of seasons without getting an understudy for Fernandinho, luckily for us it didn't cost us. Can we go another season without replacing Vincent Kompany? Absolutely no chance.

Pep would have been fuming to miss out on Maguire last summer, he will be absolutely and i mean absolutely raging to miss out on Koulibaly this window. We have wasted almost our entire summer trying to wrap this deal up and still are nowhere near close to getting it done.

Txiki needs to get this done, i don't care what it costs... we are absolutely desperate and i mean DESPERATE for a top CB. Our defence needs leadership, it needs a commanding presence in there alongside Laporte. Txiki needs to realise that he is putting Pep's reputation on the line here. He HAS to deliver.

If he does not deliver this window, it is time to employ someone else who can manage to get deals over the line with as little fuss as possible and assign Txiki a new role within the club.

I think our window really rests on this transfer. If we don't bring Koulibaly in, we have no chance of winning the Premier League or getting close to winning the CL. I still think we need a LB and another midfielder or forward player as well as Koulibaly, but not bringing in a top CB like Koulibaly would be the definition of a disastrous window.

This uefa victory could of galvanised the club in a big way. We seem to be dead set on going from disaster to disaster. I won’t throw the baby out with the bath water yet but I’m close. Nearly signing messi isn’t an achievement, and this CB is essential! It’s lost us game after game this season, get it done txiki we’re not in a position to walk away from this one over a few million.

 

[CenturyClub]

This uefa victory could of galvanised the club in a big way. We seem to be dead set on going from disaster to disaster. I won’t throw the baby out with the bath water yet but I’m close. Nearly signing messi isn’t an achievement, and this CB is essential! It’s lost us game after game this season, get it done txiki we’re not in a position to walk away from this one over a few million.

I think once we defeated UEFA, we all expected big things to come. I expected some big movements in the transfer market.

I am the same, i am willing to be patient and judge once the transfer window is closed, but if Koulibaly does end up going to PSG, that will send out all the wrong signals for me and i will be very, very disappointed. It will just indicate to me that our transfer strategy is completely flawed and we have once again dropped the ball, messed about haggling over a fee and eventually been pipped at the post again for our number 1 target. Who will be next on the list... Diego Carlos? He is not Pep's first choice so we need to make sure we get Pep's number 1 target. We have wasted so much time on this transfer saga, so we need to make sure we get this one over the line or we will end up with egg on our faces.

We signed Ake and Torres very quickly, but it has taken us a very long time to get the next deals wrapped up. We just need this Koulibaly one done within the next week so we can at least move on to other targets and focus on them until the end of the window. I am hoping Txiki doesn't let us down, this is a very, very pivotal window, particularly when Liverpool will end up signing Thiago. We need to continue to build and continue to get better. Can't stand still.

 

[Great Kompany]

For Txiki haggling skills to work, we need total and proper commitment from the players we are targeting. Just like how Bayern function.
Why was Torres cheap - Last year contract, straight up refused to sign a new deal. Wanted to come to City because of David and Pep. Valencia in dire need for Cash. Hence the deal
Ake - Bournemouth needing the cash but with no urgency as such. Ake had options for both Chelsea and City. Chelsea had a clause. We ended up paying 41 mil for a relegated defender.

WIth KK we have zero leverage. The poker face hasn't worked. ADL won't budge. KK is apparently okay with staying at Napoli too. Plus Jorginho saga. I don't even know why he was our target when we don't know how to deal with ADL.
And less than two weeks into the season We have stones and Ota against Wolves.
And if this deal happens we will pay a record fees for a defender despite Covid, despite he is 29. What this delay will achieve I surely have no clue.

 

[paulsimpson]

For Txiki haggling skills to work, we need total and proper commitment from the players we are targeting. Just like how Bayern function.
Why was Torres cheap - Last year contract, straight up refused to sign a new deal. Wanted to come to City because of David and Pep. Valencia in dire need for Cash. Hence the deal
Ake - Bournemouth needing the cash but with no urgency as such. Ake had options for both Chelsea and City. Chelsea had a clause. We ended up paying 41 mil for a relegated defender.

WIth KK we have zero leverage. The poker face hasn't worked. ADL won't budge. KK is apparently okay with staying at Napoli too. Plus Jorginho saga. I don't even know why he was our target when we don't know how to deal with ADL.
And less than two weeks into the season We have stones and Ota against Wolves.
And if this deal happens we will pay a record fees for a defender despite Covid, despite he is 29. What this delay will achieve I surely have no clue.

Very pessimistic post. Win half of those 10 games we lost last season and we get well over 90 points. The Aké and Torres additions will more than help to achieve that. KK doesn't seem to be too keen to come to us does he? We are between the proverbial rock and the hard place. Sign him at great cost with plenty of risk( previous injury worry,settling in issue?) yet he could turn out to give that stability in defence that we really need. I stress could. I've no doubt the transfer will be done but we have to see the club's caution here.

 

[dhruvblue]

If its €90m deal then better pull out. No issues.
Pep won't ne angry, it's all how things work. Haven't paid over the top shouldn't pay over the top.

And winning atbCAs has no bearing in trf market

 

[Airbags Optional]

Keep checking threads to see actual updates and all there is, is moaning bastards - moaning about Txiki, about selling about our haggling. WHEN DID CITY FABS TURN INTO SUCH SPOILT SCOUSERS?!

 

[Kokonut1307]

For Txiki haggling skills to work, we need total and proper commitment from the players we are targeting. Just like how Bayern function.
Why was Torres cheap - Last year contract, straight up refused to sign a new deal. Wanted to come to City because of David and Pep. Valencia in dire need for Cash. Hence the deal
Ake - Bournemouth needing the cash but with no urgency as such. Ake had options for both Chelsea and City. Chelsea had a clause. We ended up paying 41 mil for a relegated defender.

WIth KK we have zero leverage. The poker face hasn't worked. ADL won't budge. KK is apparently okay with staying at Napoli too. Plus Jorginho saga. I don't even know why he was our target when we don't know how to deal with ADL.
And less than two weeks into the season We have stones and Ota against Wolves.
And if this deal happens we will pay a record fees for a defender despite Covid, despite he is 29. What this delay will achieve I surely have no clue.

What record fee are you on about? KK will not cost more than the fridge that United bought

 

[bobmcfc]

Think Chelsea will be favorites for the title this season. They’ve done some great business and we’ve not even replaced vinny.