CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

[bobbyowenquiff]

Despeigel didn't do this without support, for me Bayern were always behind this you only after listen to Houness and his snide remarks about City. German.football as a whole are against rich owners and new money clubs Red Bull are detested over there . It would also harm Bayern who have the league to themselves with the current German structure !

I am certain there is a story to come out at some stage about Bayern and Der Spiegel. Apparently Bayern were involved in a legal case against the magazine based on a story they had run about the club. But it was settled quietly and quickly just before Der Spiegel switched the focus of its Footyleaks coverage onto City. It was a strange move in many ways to focus on five historic emails about City and FFP rather than the hundreds of millions of significant documents which offered much bigger stories such as the Ronaldo rape allegations.
It seems suspicious that Der Spiegel have done very little coverage of the entire Pinto case which affects many clubs and is a much bigger story than City's vague emails. I also thought the coverage of City's case by Der Spiegel was very racist (or Islamophobic) in terms of the language used.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I am certain there is a story to come out at some stage about Bayern and Der Spiegel. Apparently Bayern were involved in a legal case against the magazine based on a story they had run about the club. But it was settled quietly and quickly just before Der Spiegel switched the focus of its Footyleaks coverage onto City. It was a strange move in many ways to focus on five historic emails about City and FFP rather than the hundreds of millions of significant documents which offered much bigger stories such as the Ronaldo rape allegations.
It seems suspicious that Der Spiegel have done very little coverage of the entire Pinto case which affects many clubs and is a much bigger story than City's vague emails. I also thought the coverage of City's case by Der Spiegel was very racist (or Islamophobic) in terms of the language used.

Der Spiegel were painting Pinto as some sort of social justice warrior when, in reality, he appears to be nothing more than a grubby little criminal. They will presumably be studiously ignoring the case. Unless he's found not guilty of course.

 

[spiny]

No-one disputes that ADUG has invested in City. The jealousy is how it has brought success in terms of trophies and revenue and threatens to dominate football? No need to look far to see other clubs who have spent similar sums and failed.

The sad thing is how they and especially BM continue to spout the myth that City cheated by breaching rules grought in to stop City and ruin the Club and CFG. Rules that did not exist before so the G14 were never constrained in their spending. Those who preferred to take money out of the game rather than invest, have been left behind.

They refuse to accept the CAS rulings and evidence. They prefer to accuse CAS of bias and corruption rather than the UEFA and its process with its history that matches FIFA for lack of integrity. The evidence presented against City was a handful of emails out of context.

There was no other supporting evidence. Yet the narrative continues in parts of the media that City were guilty, got away with it on a technicality and failed to co-operate in spite of being declared guilty before the case was heard by UEFA. City declined to co-operate with a kangaroo court yet presented clear evidence there was no case to answer.


As many have said on here, it is time City stopped being so passive. Reminders should be sent to the media of the "facts" about the club and FFP with those who peddle untruths, innuendo and lies to be challenged and sanctions taken as appropriate. There is a big difference between free speech and opinion and venal, self-interest and political spoutings.

The message should be that anyone seeking to damage CFG or City needs to be certain of their ground or face the consequences.

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

It is now time to get tough with the papers. We should send a letter to every paper in this country from our lawyers, warning them that should they print anything libellous in print, we will not hesitate to take them to court and sue them for every penny they have. If that should leave them with only the shirt on their backs then so be it. The same should apply to both the editorial staff and the owners.

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

Has any heard or read how Rui Pinto's trial is going.

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

It is now time to get tough with the papers. We should send a letter to every paper in this country from our lawyers, warning them that should they print anything libellous in print, we will not hesitate to take them to court and sue them for every penny they have. If that should leave them with only the shirt on their backs then so be it. The same should apply to both the editorial staff and the owners.

No. If you do do it, you wait until someone has crossed the line, and take them to the f*cking cleaners as an example to all the others. Decimation so to speak. Don't give them clear direction, just blur the lines enough to leave them all feeling they have to err on the side of safety or the baseball bat could come out again at any time.
Untouchables style.

 

[Newman Noggs]

Has any heard or read how Rui Pinto's trial is going.

It's been voluntarily embargoed by the British media !

 

[nmc]

I hope the truth comes out one day... I’d be interested to know who was pulling the strings at Der Siegel - whether it was Bayern or a combination of clubs and perhaps more importantly who was driving the case at a UEFA! The outrageous and unproven accusations levelled against us by UEFA were not driven directly by the emails - there was a separate agenda which sought to (But failed) to retro fit the der spiegel emails but it was always going to come up short - the UEFA charges were very serious and they never had sufficient evidence to prove them. Perhaps they knew that but wanted to disrupt us and damage our reputation. Someone strategically planned this assault on our owners... they failed and I hope one day we pay them back - I can’t believe we don’t know who is behind the attack... . My monies on Gill.

 

[better dead than red]

Despeigel didn't do this without support, for me Bayern were always behind this you only after listen to Houness and his snide remarks about City. German.football as a whole are against rich owners and new money clubs Red Bull are detested over there . It would also harm Bayern who have the league to themselves with the current German structure !

Hoffenheim gets a lot of hate as well.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I hope the truth comes out one day... I’d be interested to know who was pulling the strings at Der Siegel - whether it was Bayern or a combination of clubs and perhaps more importantly who was driving the case at a UEFA! The outrageous and unproven accusations levelled against us by UEFA were not driven directly by the emails - there was a separate agenda which sought to (But failed) to retro fit the der spiegel emails but it was always going to come up short - the UEFA charges were very serious and they never had sufficient evidence to prove them. Perhaps they knew that but wanted to disrupt us and damage our reputation. Someone strategically planned this assault on our owners... they failed and I hope one day we pay them back - I can’t believe we don’t know who is behind the attack... . My monies on Gill.

I actually think the club was de-stabilised by the court case last season and it impacted on Pep and because of that the players. We were damaged by it.

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

Most of us will agree that the articles which appeared in Der Speigel were definitely of a defamatory nature. Also that someone was behind this be it some from within UEFA or from the G14 group of clubs. The time has now come for the board to get some backbone and to start to issuing notices to Der Speigel that we will see them in a British court and we will be suing the reporter, the editor and the owner. We will be looking for damages from the reporter, and the editor for £2 million apiece, and from the owners unlimited damages. Should this lead to the paper being closed down then so be it. Once we have gone after Der Speigel, Then the time has come to go after all the British press and do the same. The printing off an retraction stating that they were totally wrong with what they have printed will just not do. It is way to late for one of those retractions.

 

[nmc]

Most of us will agree that the articles which appeared in Der Speigel were definitely of a defamatory nature. Also that someone was behind this be it some from within UEFA or from the G14 group of clubs. The time has now come for the board to get some backbone and to start to issuing notices to Der Speigel that we will see them in a British court and we will be suing the reporter, the editor and the owner. We will be looking for damages from the reporter, and the editor for £2 million apiece, and from the owners unlimited damages. Should this lead to the paper being closed down then so be it. Once we have gone after Der Speigel, Then the time has come to go after all the British press and do the same. The printing off an retraction stating that they were totally wrong with what they have printed will just not do. It is way to late for one of those retractions.

We should just sue the bastards.... : )

 

[JRockBlues]

I am surprised that there was no outcry about a doctored email being published in a national news publication as a factual document or that the club haven't followed up on this with Der Spiegel. Did they even issue an apology at the very least?

Have UEFA concluded their investigation into the leaks yet?

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

It looks like the club don't want to rock the boat, so to speak. If the club wanted to do something like issue a summons for damages. We surely would have heard or read something by now. So the question must be asked has the club done anything about these hacks or the libellous statements made by the press. If not why not and if they have then surely the fans have aright to know what the club sis doing. Even if it is only a statement that a newspaper has been issued with a summons to appear in court on a due date. I am sure this would please a lot of fans right now.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

It looks like the club don't want to rock the boat, so to speak. If the club wanted to do something like issue a summons for damages. We surely would have heard or read something by now. So the question must be asked has the club done anything about these hacks or the libellous statements made by the press. If not why not and if they have then surely the fans have aright to know what the club sis doing. Even if it is only a statement that a newspaper has been issued with a summons to appear in court on a due date. I am sure this would please a lot of fans right now.

You still don’t get it do you. We don’t court controversy. We do our speaking on the field. Doing the things you suggest just gives the media an easy extra few inches in their pages. Our owner is a gentleman and just goes about his business in a calm and orderly way. He doesn’t want any kind of slagging match in public. Listen to our CEO and you might just get a clue on how we work.

 

[CC1]

It looks like the club don't want to rock the boat, so to speak. If the club wanted to do something like issue a summons for damages. We surely would have heard or read something by now. So the question must be asked has the club done anything about these hacks or the libellous statements made by the press. If not why not and if they have then surely the fans have aright to know what the club sis doing. Even if it is only a statement that a newspaper has been issued with a summons to appear in court on a due date. I am sure this would please a lot of fans right now.

Time to move on. More important things to focus on

 

[Gremlin]

We're about to hear who we get in the latest CL draw. A draw we wouldn't even be in had we not won at CAS. That is the real victory so let's enjoy that rather than focussing on more courtroom battles.

 

[Centurions]

It looks like the club don't want to rock the boat, so to speak. If the club wanted to do something like issue a summons for damages. We surely would have heard or read something by now. So the question must be asked has the club done anything about these hacks or the libellous statements made by the press. If not why not and if they have then surely the fans have aright to know what the club sis doing. Even if it is only a statement that a newspaper has been issued with a summons to appear in court on a due date. I am sure this would please a lot of fans right now.

Perhaps you should sue the club for £50 million on behalf of all fans?

 

[old blue]

Perhaps you should sue the club for £50 million on behalf of all fans?

It looks like the club don't want to rock the boat, so to speak. If the club wanted to do something like issue a summons for damages. We surely would have heard or read something by now. So the question must be asked has the club done anything about these hacks or the libellous statements made by the press. If not why not and if they have then surely the fans have aright to know what the club sis doing. Even if it is only a statement that a newspaper has been issued with a summons to appear in court on a due date. I am sure this would please a lot of fans right now.

Are you perchance a Johnnie Cash fan? Possibly your favourite song might be "A boy named ...." :-)

 

[bladdered]

Twats have still got it in for us. We are Manchester City.