Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

This number two we appointed doesn't inspire much confidence, just seems to sit there hardly showing any emotion at all. Pep still seems to turn to the bigger guy with the near bald head for advice.
 
A series of factors mainly off the pitch including the human aspects of covid isolation, shit weather and grief have contributed to a malaise that is reflected on the pitch. The trip to Leeds where even Bielsa has only signed a one year deal will be interesting. I hope Pep still wants to stay but for a host of reasons i would be surprised if he really does.
 
Marvin said:
I do wonder if our time in the Sun is done. How could you not because this performance comes on the back of last season when City's defence was wide open, and we've still not shut the door. In fact it's getting worse.

teams have ups and downs but is Pep ready for this? We've got a rebuilding job here.

This is a statement of fact and not a surrender. Just realising that City have got a job on here.
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The players were crap but don’t forget we have a lot of injuries. If that was the first team I could see your point. I just want us to get back to sucking teams when they press the defence with competent defenders and Eddie passing the ball into midfield and kev and foden to knock the ball into space on both flanks for a tap in goal. We have lost our way. I don’t recognise Peps team. Where did that team and football philosophy go?

We need to stop being nice and get angry.
 
Marvin said:
I do wonder if our time in the Sun is done. How could you not because this performance comes on the back of last season when City's defence was wide open, and we've still not shut the door. In fact it's getting worse.

teams have ups and downs but is Pep ready for this? We've got a rebuilding job here.

This is a statement of fact and not a surrender. Just realising that City have got a job on here.
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The rebuilding job has been in progress since last season and can't be done over just 1 season.

Today everything conspired against us, injuries, fatigue (no preseason), soft pens, Leicester very clinical...

Actually, we are suposed to play with a very different back 4, have Bernardo and Jesus/Aguero back, get fit and have more energy. Liverpool were crap against Leeds despite having several friendlies before that. It's a bit early for conclusions, imo.
 
Marvin said:
I do wonder if our time in the Sun is done. How could you not because this performance comes on the back of last season when City's defence was wide open, and we've still not shut the door. In fact it's getting worse.

teams have ups and downs but is Pep ready for this? We've got a rebuilding job here.

This is a statement of fact and not a surrender. Just realising that City have got a job on here.
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I'm inclined to agree and I'm normally a very hopeful and optimistic type . This must be just a very bad day at the office given the injuries etc but
if it doesn't get back to normal within the next 4 -5 weeks or we suffer another big defeat like that ,we will be looking at someone else. That is the stark reality . Pep will hopefully find that reserve from within.

Kompany would be the only man who could do the job.
 
Fordyboy46 said:
This number two we appointed doesn't inspire much confidence, just seems to sit there hardly showing any emotion at all. Pep still seems to turn to the bigger guy with the near bald head for advice.
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Never seen him get off the chair, Starting to think he actually might need an operation to get him off it. Looks really disinterested.
 
Fordyboy46 said:
Do you think he'll sign a new contract then?
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50/50. I think he is genuinely unsure whether the players are receptive. No point extending if he's lost the dressing room.

I think today was a bit of a fluke but I am getting rather sick of watching City concede soft goals. And I am beginning to think City's time in the Sun maybe coming to an end. Pepjoined us when he was worshipped and built a title winning side. Now he needs to do it again when there are doubts.

If he rebuilds this side he will be an undoubted great coach. I hope he takes it as a challenge.
 
Marvin said:
50/50. I think he is genuinely unsure whether the players are receptive. No point extending if he's lost the dressing room.

I think today was a bit of a fluke but I am getting rather sick of watching City concede soft goals. And I am beginning to think City's time in the Sun maybe coming to an end. Pepjoined us when he was worshipped and built a title winning side. Now he needs to do it again when there are doubts.

If he rebuilds this side he will be an undoubted great coach. I hope he takes it as a challenge.
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A proper rebuild now means him committing for at least another 3 years including this one, just not sure he has that in him.
 
nellyonthewing said:
A fair assumption -what's the betting its not occurred to the spanish chuckle brothers.
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As mad as it sounds given our treble winning season was only two years ago we are in transition. Kompany and Silva are world class players and not easy to replace. We have been hit hard with injuries meaning Mendy is as good as finished at the top level now. Unfortunately our buys are a bit hit and miss. Laporte looks okay, Rodri, Mahrez, Cancelo less so. Ake and Torres remind me of our buys after the 2012 season. Centre half, left back, holding midfield and a striker have been needed for a while now. We haven't addressed it and it caught up with us today big time. You imagine Pep being sold the dream to come here and watching us struggle to get the real top class buys into the club and thinking, what the hell. We aren't winning the league or the champions league this year that's for sure.
 
I think almost certainly not, no. He will be acutely aware that the players are not as responsive to him as they once were. And he’s always said that will be when he goes.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
Which manager signed Rodri, Mendy, Walker, Gundogan, Stones and Cancelo?

At the end of the day we are not talking about old players at the end of their careers or players Pep inherited when he joined the club. We are talking about players who Pep signed, or at least gave his approval, who cannot play his system anymore.

De Bruyne looked like he couldn’t be arsed running back today and look at the state of the first penalty Leicester got awarded.

Both Dinho and Mahrez fail to win the ball but they also fail to make the foul. We were renowned for the tactical fouling dark arts but it seems the players cannot even be arsed to do that anymore.

The real stupidity of this side, and this must come from the tactics, is the lack of defensive responsibility. Again, going back to the first Leicester penalty, Rodri is running forwards before Dinho has even won the ball. His though isn’t to cover our defence, it’s to potentially start an attack. This attitude is the epitome of why we cannot defend for shit.

Just look at our PL record over the past 12 months, I’m pretty sure we’ve lost more PL games than Arsenal and United, if not it must be close. That’s despite being the most prolific side. Then there’s the constant repetition in the CL where we cannot defend against bang average sides like Spurs and Lyon who knock us out.

Pep quite simply has to change things and get us sorted at the back. If he insists on playing his way, we’ll be in a fight for the top 4.
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there isn’t really any club in the world where the manager is in charge of signings. He is involved of course but if pep wasn’t here the managerwould bechosen by the same people choosing the players and the profile of player we sign would therefore be broadly similar.

I think Pepneeds to change some things. Selection v Lyon for example (although in a way the problem there was changing from his usual system) but broadly speaking his ways haveproduced the best football we have seen.

you can improve with a small number ofnew players. Look at Kante going to Leicester and then Chelsea.We need the next one of him. Thenext Fernandinho.
 
I feel that the down-ward spiral started with Arteta leaving. It really felt like Pep had his soulmate next to him with Mikel. Also, he seemed to have a positive influence on the team and it seems like he is making wonders with an Arsenal that have been constantly under-performing in recent years. Two trophies in recent months and victories against Liverpool x2, us and Chelsea.

Unfortunately, the down-side with seeing Centurions and Fourmidables and the Agueroooo moment is that inevitably it can’t get any better. Today I considered breaking up with football because those years will not be bettered. But I know damn well I’ll be watching the next game anyway, that’s how it is.

Think it’s time for Pep to go unfortunately. We look extremely unbalanced and the CM disaster with Rodri/Gundogan is gonna continue for a long time.

Wouldn’t mind Bodgers as a manager. Liked him at Swansea and Liverpool and think he could build and amazing side.
 
I think Pep gave the players an excuse pre-game by bemoaning injuries and a thin squad of fit players, all facts but he shouldn't have highlighted it. I think he misses Arteta massively, his organizational skills are clearly missed. His intensity will wear on some older players but to doubt his skills would be a mistake in my opinion. He's never stayed anywhere long enough to do a full rebuild so he may have self doubts but I would love him to stay and succeed as the football he delivers is sometimes sublime. A defensive coach wouldn't go amiss.
 
noirish said:
I feel that the down-ward spiral started with Arteta leaving. It really felt like Pep had his soulmate next to him with Mikel. Also, he seemed to have a positive influence on the team and it seems like he is making wonders with an Arsenal that have been constantly under-performing in recent years. Two trophies in recent months and victories against Liverpool x2, us and Chelsea.

Unfortunately, the down-side with seeing Centurions and Fourmidables and the Agueroooo moment is that inevitably it can’t get any better. Today I considered breaking up with football because those years will not be bettered. But I know damn well I’ll be watching the next game anyway, that’s how it is.

Think it’s time for Pep to go unfortunately. We look extremely unbalanced and the CM disaster with Rodri/Gundogan is gonna continue for a long time.

Wouldn’t mind Bodgers as a manager. Liked him at Swansea and Liverpool and think he could build and amazing side.
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No
Kompany is the only one to succeed Pep imo .
 
what worked two years does not work anymore. also we are not exactly like we were two years ago. We pressed a lot, we had lot of energy, we worked hard. We hassled defences put pressure on them to make mistakes and we scored lots of our chances.

We changed for the worse, while defence got worse on its own due to personnel.

We had Delph and Zinchenko playing pretty well at LB, not making many mistakes in 17-18, now we have Mendy there who is no help at all defensively or going forward.
And the mess in CB...

When we found Delap with a cross and his header touched the woodwork, that was such a strange moment, Jesus/Sterling needs 100 crosses to make a header like that between tall defenders. Mahrez would never arrive for a header, I really think he is one of those who is scared to head the ball.
 
Someone else mentioned this in this thread but why the fuck did Pep not return from Spain earlier... Had to self isolate (which he knew he would have to), so missed the best part of a week of preseason training. I found that very odd.
 
wolviedinho said:
The players were crap but don’t forget we have a lot of injuries. If that was the first team I could see your point. I just want us to get back to sucking teams when they press the defence with competent defenders and Eddie passing the ball into midfield and kev and foden to knock the ball into space on both flanks for a tap in goal. We have lost our way. I don’t recognise Peps team. Where did that team and football philosophy go?

We need to stop being nice and get angry.
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If that was a first team?
I guess the general view of the first team is this.
Ederson
Walker Ake Laporte Mendy
Rodri
kev Bernardo
Foden Kun Raheem

Only 3 didn't play. So we still put out a side most clubs would die for. It's Pep's fucking job to get them playing as a team.
 
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