It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

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catalyst said:
Unless Alaba lowers his wage demands I can't see it happening. He's asking to be paid more than what KDB earns. All reports from Germany tho, the most recent report was that either they give him a 400k per week contract or he sees out final year. Doesn't seem the type of move we'd make
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It might depend on how much we can get him for and how much we might be able to offset with a signing on fee to reduce the weekly wage.

I’ve not watched him extensively but he’s always looked top drawer on the occasions I’ve watched him. He’d also be the kind of signing that says we mean business both in the dressing room and to the rest of the league by signing a top player from a top level side.
 
How we can be chasing a left back at this point is beyond me, with the money we have spent on full backs it is piss poor.

Mendy, Angelino, Zinchenko, Cancelo and now we have the option of Ake as well.

I believe Pep is one of the best coaches in the world and i would be telling him he needs to get the best out of these players rather than spunking the best part of £30 - £40 million on yet another full back.
 
abu13 said:
How we can be chasing a left back at this point is beyond me, with the money we have spent on full backs it is piss poor.

Mendy, Angelino, Zinchenko, Cancelo and now we have the option of Ake as well.

I believe Pep is one of the best coaches in the world and i would be telling him he needs to get the best out of these players rather than spunking the best part of £30 - £40 million on yet another full back.
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Mendy, Angelino, Zinchenko are shite thats the problem. Recruitment is big issue.

don't understand how Txiki gets a pass and blame Pep.
 
BillyShears said:
14 on the bounce at the end of 18/19 season suggests that we could attack just fine without Leroy when we wanted to. Our general approach play has been disintegrating since then.

That's not a defence of Mahrez either, because I think he was a very bad buy. One driven by Pep. Also Sane was basically driven out the door by Pep. So on both counts it's a difficult one to know what to do with because I'd have Pep as a coach over any individual player.
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That was a great run built on Peo, determination and Kompany staying fit. We had/have a brilliant team and will always be capable of putting runs like that together.

But it doesn’t change the fact that our style of play changed drastically for the worse when we signed Mendy which pushed Sane out of the team. Mahrez getting so much playing time plays the game differently and has been one of the biggest factors in us losing our cutting edge.

And it’s all very well Pep not wanting Sane but since he’s been out of the team from being injured over a year ago we haven’t reached anywhere near the previous standards.
 
City_Sean said:
Agree and thought you handled this perfectly on your podcast yesterday. When one or two play badly you can blame them, when it's the whole team it's the managers issue.

He needs to evolve for me, I feel as though to a degree our system and shape has been found out. He has to reinvent how this team plays whilst reinvigorating himself.

He's the best coach in the world. Coaching the best squad in world football. It's time we started getting the best out of the plethora of talent that we have.
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Can’t agree with that last paragraph mate. We could have the best coach and not the best squad. Or the best squad and not best coach. Even neither of those but we ain’t got the best coach and squad last season is proof of that.
 
jay_mcfc said:
That was a great run built on Peo, determination and Kompany staying fit. We had/have a brilliant team and will always be capable of putting runs like that together.

But it doesn’t change the fact that our style of play changed drastically for the worse when we signed Mendy which pushed Sane out of the team. Mahrez getting so much playing time plays the game differently and has been one of the biggest factors in us losing our cutting edge.

And it’s all very well Pep not wanting Sane but since he’s been out of the team from being injured over a year ago we haven’t reached anywhere near the previous standards.
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We signed Mendy in 2017. The season in which Sane won YPOTY. When Sane and Mendy played together before Mendy's ACL Sane destroyed Liverpool.
 
hilts said:
Can’t agree with that last paragraph mate. We could have the best coach and not the best squad. Or the best squad and not best coach. Even neither of those but we ain’t got the best coach and squad last season is proof of that.
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We haven't got the best squad either. Just because its expensive doesn't mean its the best.
 
MeatHunterrr said:
Mendy, Angelino, Zinchenko are shite thats the problem. Recruitment is big issue.

don't understand how Txiki gets a pass and blame Pep.
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I agree but Pep must have been in agreement to sign them or extend their contracts.

I agree that Txiki has to take his share of the blame as well,
 
jay_mcfc said:
That was a great run built on Peo, determination and Kompany staying fit. We had/have a brilliant team and will always be capable of putting runs like that together.

But it doesn’t change the fact that our style of play changed drastically for the worse when we signed Mendy which pushed Sane out of the team. Mahrez getting so much playing time plays the game differently and has been one of the biggest factors in us losing our cutting edge.

And it’s all very well Pep not wanting Sane but since he’s been out of the team from being injured over a year ago we haven’t reached anywhere near the previous standards.
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Don’t see how Mendy pushed Sane out Mendy hardly played when Sane was left out for Bernardo and Sterling, while winning everything.
 
MeatHunterrr said:
We haven't got the best squad either. Just because its expensive doesn't mean its the best.
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Yeah it’s why is said neither best coach or squad. Others will disagree obviously. I think Bayern and unfortunately the scousers have the best squads. And I think Pep is either past his best or is too stubborn to reassess his approach.
 
hilts said:
Yeah it’s why is said neither best coach or squad. Others will disagree obviously. I think Bayern and unfortunately the scousers have the best squads. And I think Pep is either past his best or is too stubborn to reassess his approach.
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No way liverpool have the best squad, unfortunately they don’t seem to need a squad.
 
abu13 said:
How we can be chasing a left back at this point is beyond me, with the money we have spent on full backs it is piss poor.

Mendy, Angelino, Zinchenko, Cancelo and now we have the option of Ake as well.

I believe Pep is one of the best coaches in the world and i would be telling him he needs to get the best out of these players rather than spunking the best part of £30 - £40 million on yet another full back.
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Not an accurate assessment. Zin was not bought as a lb and it is far too early to write cancelo off. Angelino was never going to get into the team and was initially going to be sold once we activated the buy back. Mendy is the only one currently that has serious question marks.
 
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