It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

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Solid window imho if it stays like this 3 key players brought in the youth lads looking good as well with the likes of Delap/palmer/bellis Foden making massive strides key players coming back from injury.

All ways fascinates me this section of the forum with so many flappers :)

Poor window imo. Dias should have been done last year replacing Kompany. Ake is just going to be a squad rotation player, if Laporte is fit he's on the bench. Not replaced Silva, Fernandinho is a year older, Aguero would have had a 6 month injury by the time he returns and will probably have on going issues not invested in another back up. All we've done is replace Sane who didn't play last year.

Like I say it's my opinion but it's been incredibly poor.
 
Pep has never played with a destroyer 6 like some people want to replace dinho. He’s always had a player like rodri there.

We are lucky dinho could spray the ball out to the wings well and recycle it in the middle other wise Pep would of got rid of him straight away and signed a 6 that fits his profile like he did with Alonso at Munich.

Also made me laugh the high praise for Kante when Dinho could do all he could With bells on it.

we were very lucky to have Dinho in his prime under Pep, bet Pep couldn’t believe how good he was when he arrived.

Their will never be a 6 as good as Dinho was in the 17/18 and 18/19 season.
 
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And before that we wanted Jorginho, again, the opposite type of defensive midfielder to Fernandinho.

In between we wanted Frenkie De Jong, another in the same category.

Exactly. Imagine if we'd bought Jorginho how that could've (not) worked out. Haha.

Anyway, I want to give Rodri a chance to do better with a stable defence behind him and a functioning attack in front of him.
 
Are you speaking from inside knowledge why youth for Fernandinho but not for the Gundagon role ?
Inside knowledge, no. I do feel easier for young academy lad, Doyle for instance, to replace the legs of ferny, than the guile of a more advanced Gundogan.
 
Exactly. Imagine if we'd bought Jorginho how that could've (not) worked out. Haha.

Anyway, I want to give Rodri a chance to do better with a stable defence behind him and a functioning attack in front of him.

I was listening to a podcast earlier and someone was defending him in a similar manner. To me it reeked of Pogba, having other players around him will get the best of him. 60 mil plus, you can’t have that excuse. The lad needs to step up big time. We bought him to BE that person for us, he shouldn’t need anything else unfortunately. Hopefully it was just finding his feet but Leicester really has me worrying about how he fits and affects our system.
 
He crossed the line when he got his wife to bitch about the Lyon game.
His wife is a professional sports reporter and a City fan and is entitled to her own opinions. He issued a clarifying statement during his wedding celebrations. There is absolutely no proof that he "got his wife to bitch about the Lyon game", dark age thinking.
 
Poor window imo. Dias should have been done last year replacing Kompany. Ake is just going to be a squad rotation player, if Laporte is fit he's on the bench. Not replaced Silva, Fernandinho is a year older, Aguero would have had a 6 month injury by the time he returns and will probably have on going issues not invested in another back up. All we've done is replace Sane who didn't play last year.

Like I say it's my opinion but it's been incredibly poor.

Alternatively.

Dias is EXACTLY what this team was missing last season, a no nonsense top drawer defender who is also a leader and an organiser. HUGE upgrade on last season. Ake is EXACTLY what this team was missing last season. A dependable consistent left footed defender to deputise for Laporte and also can be a defensive left sided full back. Torres is EXACTLY what this team was missing last season. A RAPID winger with bags of intelligence and technical ability and the capacity to play both the inside channels and the flanks.

Opinions are easy and fun.
 
Where do comments like this come from? Foden, Bernardo, KDB, Fernandinho...we have pace in midfield.

If Pep chooses to pick Rodri and Gundogan, the only 2 who don't have pace, that's not going to be fixed by just buying another midfielder who can run.

And when did football become a 100m race? Busquets, Alonso, Gareth Barry were all slow as fuck. Why are people pretending like your defensive midfielder has to be a marathon runner now?

of those you mentioned, only Foden has pace.
The others can move about, but if they are 20 yards behind a counter, only Foden gets back fast. That’s the pace people are referring to, not the tempo.
 
Very disappointing. Given our injuries and the var factor I don't think we've done enough to win the title or CL.

After winning the CAS appeal, Khaldoon's end of season speech and chasing Messi it's a bit underwhelming. We still have a painfully slow midfield and no reliable left back and we're a bit light up front.

We’ve still spent the best part of £130m.
People are being a bit too negative on here.

(1) Ake + Dias in, Garcia + Otamendi out is a big upgrade on the defence
(2) Torres in, injured Sane out is a big upgrade if Torres actually contributes

Some of the same weaknesses still exist, but they weren’t as glaring as these.
You can only move in the transfer market if it makes sense to do so.

United are now proving exactly why you can’t keep buying dross. They can’t shift anyone and as a result they can’t sign anyone.

Not buying someone is better than buying the wrong player.

After the Dias transfer i’m positive about this season and winning more titles.
 
If our window is over, was there something which happened mid way through it in which our Board changed their mind? Khaldoon clearly said multiple signings and we ended up with a CB after the PL started. I just hope Pep's contract issue doesn't have anything to do with this.

In any case, I am more than happy with this window. PL contenders for sure, but need certain players like Mendy, Bernardo and Torres to find form for Champions League.
 
Pep has never played with a destroyer 6 like some people want to replace dinho. He’s always had a player like rodri there.

We are lucky dinho could spray the ball out to the wings well and recycle it in the middle other wise Pep would of got rid of him straight away and signed a 6 that fits his profile like he did with Alonso at Munich.

Also made me laugh the high praise for Kante when Dinho could do all he could Will bells on it.

we were very lucky to have Dinho in his prime under Pep but Pep couldn’t believe how good he was when he arrived.

Their will never be a 6 as good as Dinho was in the 17/18 and 18/19 season.
But you can clearly see how good ferna is in our system and Rodri seems to lack that bit of aggression and pace.
There is a reason a midfield of Ferna Silva and KDB is world beaters but replace Ferna with Rodri and its starts losing its edge.
A double pivot of Rodri Gunda is just ridiculous and only works rarely. So either we get some version of Silva along side of Rodri and KDB else this midfield would be easy to pass through.
 
Alternatively.

Dias is EXACTLY what this team was missing last season, a no nonsense top drawer defender who is also a leader and an organiser. HUGE upgrade on last season. Ake is EXACTLY what this team was missing last season. A dependable consistent left footed defender to deputise for Laporte and also can be a defensive left sided full back. Torres is EXACTLY what this team was missing last season. A RAPID winger with bags of intelligence and technical ability and the capacity to play both the inside channels and the flanks.

Opinions are easy and fun.
Well said sir well said
 
Not a perfect window, but overall considering what is going on in the world, we have done well. When you look what other clubs are doing and the restrictions they have then we are very fortunate to have the owners we do. Of course some will want more and more, but for me, I am happy with what we have done.
 
But you can clearly see how good ferna is in our system and Rodri seems to lack that bit of aggression and pace.
There is a reason a midfield of Ferna Silva and KDB is world beaters but replace Ferna with Rodri and its starts losing its edge.
A double pivot of Rodri Gunda is just ridiculous and only works rarely. So either we get some version of Silva along side of Rodri and KDB else this midfield would be easy to pass through.
If Foden or Bernardo play instead of Silva then I ‘d say it has more energy, The problems were worse when Gundogan replaced Silva but last season even with Silva the midfield lacked energy.
 
of those you mentioned, only Foden has pace.
The others can move about, but if they are 20 yards behind a counter, only Foden gets back fast. That’s the pace people are referring to, not the tempo.

You should try watching athletics rather than football if you think that's true.
 
If Foden or Bernardo play instead of Silva then I ‘d say it has more energy, The problems were worse when Gundogan replaced Silva but last season even with Silva the midfield lacked energy.

People talk about the 6 position as if pep doesn't have options. He has nailed his colours to the Rodri mast. Txiki could go and buy Ndidi, Kante, Douglas Luiz, and Thomas Partey and Pep would still play Gundo and Rodri.
 
Part of the point that I am making is that there do not seem to have been the players out there to go for that could achieve that strengthening of the squad - even all the knowledge of the very many posters on here has not really identified many targets that were attainable or would meet the potential of world class criteria I was mentioning

Perhaps it is just that simple
An excellent point. Some posters want replacements for Kompany, Merlin, Sergio, Fernandinho etc. who are already as good as those players were when they were at their peak. If they were out there they would hardly be available or if available would probably cost £ 70 million + each.
 
People talk about the 6 position as if pep doesn't have options. He has nailed his colours to the Rodri mast. Txiki could go and buy Ndidi, Kante, Douglas Luiz, and Thomas Partey and Pep would still play Gundo and Rodri.

Billy, 1-2 days ago you said the club decided to pursue a leftback, and now we’re done? Do you know what happend?
 
His wife is a professional sports reporter and a City fan and is entitled to her own opinions. He issued a clarifying statement during his wedding celebrations. There is absolutely no proof that he "got his wife to bitch about the Lyon game", dark age thinking.

His wife directly attacked Pep. City fan? I am sure she was a fan before she met Zin maybe she went to York away as well. He issued a statement because he fucked up by speaking out of turn and airing private discussions that should have stayed in the locker room. No wonder Pep wanted him sold. My personal thoughts have no basis for your rebuke.
 
of those you mentioned, only Foden has pace.
The others can move about, but if they are 20 yards behind a counter, only Foden gets back fast. That’s the pace people are referring to, not the tempo.
It isn’t the pace I’m talking about, I don’t expect any of the midfielders to catch a Vardy , Traore or Mane, on a counter attack. The pace I want from them is the pace and energy to close down opposition defenders and midfielders quick enough to prevent the ball over top in the first place, thats what I’m expecting from Foden, Bernardo, KDB, and Jesus this season. Much the same way liverpools midfield have the energy to stop counter attacks happening by closing down not from chasing back.
 
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