COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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France= 26,896 new cases and 54 new deaths
Italy= 5,724 new cases and 29 new deaths
Spain= (provisional) new cases 5,986 and 241 new deaths
All in the below link

www.worldometers.info

Spain COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Spain Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
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Aguero_Element said:
How is it that london is not more infected.... it seems strange given intensley more populated it is
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It is starting to get pockets of infection and numbers have risen over the past 4 days but the data I post nightly shows it is a long way behind the North West. And akin to the North East in numbers of cases right now and not showing much large jumps in numbers.

Though one of these similar numbered areas is being considered for lockdown (NE) the other not (London).

Over the past few days here are the regional test numbers:

MIdlands 906, 1059, 928, 1903, 1096

Yorks & Humber 2437, 1655, 2347, 1160, 2289

North East 1057, 1277, 1084, 1151

North West 4441, 3555, 4448, 2471, 3672

London 916, 1310, 1252, 1457, 1174


Aside from showing the raging inconsistency in the testing data day to day and wondering how much it depends on focusing on certain areas TO test, the real key is hospitalisations and ventilator cases.

These have risen in London as they have everywhere a little since Summer. But there is nothing like the pressure there as in the North West. Where the numbers are much higher and rising noticably faster on both measures.

By far the biggest numbers in hospital, the most rises in ventilators and the largest numbers of deaths have been occurring in the north west for the past week or two. It is the clear and with Yorkshire accouts for the vast majority of problems in England.

So I guess we have to treat the areas in most urgent need as the health services there are where as winter arrives real problems might ensue.

One thing that seems evident is this wave has moved more north to south than it did south to north in March. With a few days/weeks as regions caught up. So it might be heading there. Who knows?

Some argue more caught it early there as it had longer pre lockdown with the disease spreading in March. Others say it is to do with the difference between dense housing in deprived areas more common in the North West. JUst look at a satellite map of Europe and the Merseyside/Greater Manchester/West Yorkshire region covers 100 miles and looks like one huge city of lights. This reveals it as one of the biggest areas of mass population on the planet. A perfect hot bed for this very contagious virus.

Some scientists have noted the cases fell less during the Summer in many parts of the north than they did in the south. So once the cases started to rise again the north reached a level where they started multiplying noticeably faster and this is just ahead of a curve other areas will see as the weather turns.

Nobody really knows I suspect. A lot of guessing going on.
 
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blueparrot said:
I agree except Cummings was worse, because he changed a lot of peoples behaviour, she probably hasn’t. Secondly he’s suffered no consequences and is still running the country, sorry I mean advising, she has been stripped of any influence she had.
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That's rubbish mate and I'm a labour voter. No doubt your political leaning is influencing your opinion but getting on public transport whilst knowing you have the virus is 10 X worse than the rest of what she did and also what Cummings did. No excuse and she could have killed someone.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
I keep hearing that it will pass
Will it?
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Forget the notion of getting to zero infection rates with the introduction of a vaccine - that’s for the unicorns as any indepth study will tell you,
there are too many caveats in play. However, anti virals and multiple other therapeutics being tested in conjunction with a vaccine/s that gives us some form of limited duration protection may be enough by the spring time is very feasible in my opinion.

But we also need to take a reality check here and open our minds to the fact that this may be around for a very long time but as time passes the tools at our disposal to mitigate the impact of the virus will increase significantly. Vital that we keep a very careful eye on sustaining Economic and social activity as well as young peoples education as safely as possible which in turn will help avert an inevitable mental health crisis on this current trajectory.
 
Aguero_Element said:
How is it that london is not more infected.... it seems strange given intensley more populated it is
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People are taking it more seriously, in general. My brother lives down there and was shocked when I said I see people in shops every single day without masks. Up here it looks like hard looking men in sportswear and fat tattooed women have some sort of imunity.
 
Aguero_Element said:
How is it that london is not more infected.... it seems strange given intensley more populated it is
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I guess we will find out later on but if I was to guess, it would be that there are higher levels immunity, with London ravaged during the peak.

The likely peak in infections in London would have been mid March (three weeks before peak in deaths). A week or more before lockdown. You would have to think that to get to that peak, the virus would have been working it's way through the city for a few weeks. The Tube would have been fertile ground for the virus. When you consider over five million tube journeys are made each day and many will be spending times in packed pubs, restaurants, cafes etc., many must have had it.

In the Borough in which I live (Barnet), which has a population of 390k, about 400 died in five weeks at the time of the peak. Since 1 July, just 5 have passed. Current total is 459 deaths. Thus, if the death rate is 1%, 45,900 have had the virus. If the rate is 0.5% (the lower end), then over 91,800 have been infected, around 24% of the population. There are a number of worse hit boroughs in London.
 
AlgarveBlu said:
Forget the notion of getting to zero infection rates with the introduction of a vaccine - that’s for the unicorns as any indepth study will tell you,
there are too many caveats in play. However, anti virals and multiple other therapeutics being tested in conjunction with a vaccine/s that gives us some form of limited duration protection may be enough by the spring time is very feasible in my opinion.

But we also need to take a reality check here and open our minds to the fact that this may be around for a very long time but as time passes the tools at our disposal to mitigate the impact of the virus will increase significantly. Vital that we keep a very careful eye on sustaining Economic and social activity as well as young peoples education as safely as possible which in turn will help avert an inevitable mental health crisis on this current trajectory.
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Good points but do you not think there is more to this now?
 
marcus said:
This. Someone on here said the other day anyone in industries that are forced to close and receive the 65% of their wage should be happy with that. I couldnt survive on a 35% wage cut!
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It’s laughable how this shower of shite running the country expect someone on minimum wage or just above can make ends meet on 65% .
 
Scottish data v last week

0 deaths v 0 last week

956 cases v 758 last week

14.9% positive v 12,1% last week

449 in hospital (up 17 in 24 hrs) v 210 last week

35 on ventilators (up 1 in 24 hours) v 22 last week
 
marcus said:
This. Someone on here said the other day anyone in industries that are forced to close and receive the 65% of their wage should be happy with that. I couldnt survive on a 35% wage cut!
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All depends on circumstances really doesn’t it. Living at home with parents it is very doable. Only breadearner in a family of four with mortgage/rent and bills and it’s suddenly a nightmare.
 
England hospital deaths:

32 with 14 from the North West. Last week it was 28 with 6 from the North West.

That is a reasonably modest increase, which is good, but of course it is weekend data.
 
England hospital details:

10 Oct adds 5 = 5 after one day. (last Sunday was 7 added)

9 Oct adds 15 = 21 after two days (last Sunday 16 was added to day two)

8 Oct adds 9 = 44 after three days (last Sunday 5 was added to day three).

7 Oct adds 1 = 55 after four days (highest day 4 total since 10 June. Last Sunday 0 was added to day 4)

6 Oct adds 0 = 45 after five days. (highest five day total since 24 June).

14 of those 30 deaths were from the NW.

The other two deaths added today were 1 added to 5 Oct taking that total to 35. And another from way back in March.
 
Today's England hospital deaths were aged between 54 and 100. Only one (aged 65) had no known underlying conditions.
 
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