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This latest broadcast by the medical "experts" really is a blatant case for scaring people written by the ministry for lies.

Yes the numbers are going up,,, but not once, not one time have they said how the increase in the number (yes number) of cases relates to the number of tests they are doing1111
Pretty sure they mentioned the number of tests being much higher compared to months ago at the very start of the bulletin. Hospital admissions and numbers of deaths are the key barometer for me as opposed to number of positive cases, and sadly both hospital admissions and deaths are going up.
 
This latest set of presentations by the medical "exerts" is a clear case being presented by the Ministry of Lies.

Not once, not one time have they mentioned how the increase in numbers (yes numbers) of people having C19 to the number of tests being carried out.

If you are doing 10 times as many tests you expect the number of cases to increase accordingly - simple.

Seriously, this is becoming like the soviet union in the 70's where the population belived all the shit they were given... they really are trying to scare people.

Something has to be done about this!!
What do you want them to do? Not test and make this all go away?

Regardless of your stance on the virus the only statistics that really matter are both hospital admissions and deaths.

Admissions are currently approaching 500 per day and the rate of change is only increasing.

If we don't take action then that admissions figure will eventually increase to the point where hospitals will be unable to save everyone irrespective of their medical condition.

You can only reduce admissions by reducing cases through lockdowns, vaccines or similar!
 
Central Station Nightingale hospital in Manchester being prepared to reopen now (along with those in Yorkshire and the North East) tells you this is not propaganda but a genuine belief we are going to push capacity in the north west soon. The graphs showing the steep rise IN the north west of people over 65 being hospitalised shows why approaching 100 people have died in the NW over the past week from Covid.

These are not propaganda lies. They are facts .

I know its hard for some to accept the real world when it appears to deny freedoms. But life tosses you curve balls every now and again. Often though you need to be over 40 to get that if you are lucky with the years you grow up during.

But most generations face a challenge like this at some point and history judges them by how they respond.

This is the first big challenge of the internet age which has I fear a serious negative impact on the human spirit to be resilent and not believe every scare story or conspiracy that gets 1000 likes on Twitter.

It may prove to be our biggest test yet.
 
The consistently talk about the increse in numbers, they rarely, if ever talk about th number in relation to the number of tests done.

If they were to tell me that the number of positive cases were 5, or 10 or 15 % of the cases carried out as oposed the percentage back in March I'd feel a lot more comfortable,

If we did 10,000 cases back in March and had 100 cases and now we are doing 100,000 cases and finding 1000 cases, please tell me the rate of inection in both cases is 1%,

Do NOT tell me the number of cases have risen from 10 to 100 between March and now.... which is exactly what they're doing!!
Only in England, the rest of the UK do exactly what your asking every single day.Even in England the 2 figures are readily available and easy to workd out, nothing is hidden . Anyway the positive tests aren't the important part. This is !


"Manchester's medical lead Dr Jane Eddleston says north-west England has about 40% of all of the country's Covid cases, which is "proving challenging".

Greater Manchester has seen a three-fold increase in the number of patients in intensive care in the last five weeks and an eight-fold increase in admissions.

Thirty per cent of the hospital's critical care beds are now occupied by patients with Covid "which is starting to impact on the services we provide for other patients".

"I stress to you the importance of us taking this disease extremely seriously," she says."

The only question is how we stop it rising.
 
There are enough people in the wild that believe that this virus is a hoax and they'll continue to do what they want to do until the government mans up and gives harsh punishments to them.

The same people who believe in flat earth and Nazis on the moon are a danger to us all IMO.
 
They consistently talk about the increase in numbers, they rarely, if ever talk about the number in relation to the number of tests done.

If they were to tell me that the number of positive cases were 5, or 10 or 15 % of the cases carried out as opposed the percentage back in March I'd feel a lot more comfortable,

If we did 10,000 cases back in March and had 100 cases and now we are doing 100,000 cases and finding 1000 cases, please tell me the rate of infection in both cases is 1%,

Do NOT tell me the number of cases have risen from 10 to 100 between March and now.... which is exactly what they're doing!!
I think it was different in March insofar as testing wasn't as readily avail and many may have had it and not been tested.
 
This latest set of presentations by the medical "exerts" is a clear case being presented by the Ministry of Lies.

Not once, not one time have they mentioned how the increase in numbers (yes numbers) of people having C19 to the number of tests being carried out.

If you are doing 10 times as many tests you expect the number of cases to increase accordingly - simple.

Seriously, this is becoming like the soviet union in the 70's where the population belived all the shit they were given... they really are trying to scare people.

Something has to be done about this!!

The test positivity rate has also been rising, as have hospitalisations. Test numbers have not increased anywhere near as fast as cases since the 2nd wave started - we are NOT doing 10x as many tests as we were in August.

There's absolutely no doubt this is real. Nobody is saying it's yet as bad as the first wave, although given hospitlisation data, it may meet that very soon in Liverpool, and unless action is taken, there's every reason to believe the rest of the country will follow suit, as numbers are rising pretty much everywhere now.
 
You're happy for everything to be shut down with no apparent reason? Gyms opened and there were no increases at all. They have not changed since then, they shouldn't be closed.
Well there are increases since gyms opened ,thats a fact, whether it's caused by gyms opening I wouldn't know but neither would you.
 
Only in England, the rest of the UK do exactly what your asking every single day.Even in England the 2 figures are readily available and easy to workd out, nothing is hidden . Anyway the positive tests aren't the important part. This is !


"Manchester's medical lead Dr Jane Eddleston says north-west England has about 40% of all of the country's Covid cases, which is "proving challenging".

Greater Manchester has seen a three-fold increase in the number of patients in intensive care in the last five weeks and an eight-fold increase in admissions.

Thirty per cent of the hospital's critical care beds are now occupied by patients with Covid "which is starting to impact on the services we provide for other patients".

"I stress to you the importance of us taking this disease extremely seriously," she says."

The only question is how we stop it rising.
No doubt our local conspiracy nut job - I’ve made reference to him previously on here - will claim those figures are fabricated. The fucker was at it again yesterday when I was out walking my dog. He was complaining that someone had told him he’s responsible for all the Covid deaths in the world. How come? I asked. He replied that he’d just told a passer-by who was wearing a mask that there was no need to wear one if he was out walking alone, to which the response was that it was because of people like him that so many have died. Personally, I think the **** has had that response coming for months and who the fuck is he to tell people when and where they should wear a mask? The poor fucker wasn’t exactly doing any harm to anyone by wearing one.
 
The test positivity rate has also been rising, as have hospitalisations. Test numbers have not increased anywhere near as fast as cases since the 2nd wave started - we are NOT doing 10x as many tests as we were in August.

There's absolutely no doubt this is real. Nobody is saying it's yet as bad as the first wave, although given hospitlisation data, it may meet that very soon in Liverpool, and unless action is taken, there's every reason to believe the rest of the country will follow suit, as numbers are rising pretty much everywhere now.

I think most accept it's rising and quicker than we can accept but we are discussing the ways to slow it.

This is about where the most danger of infection is and individuals flouting the basic rules.
 
The test positivity rate has also been rising, as have hospitalisations. Test numbers have not increased anywhere near as fast as cases since the 2nd wave started - we are NOT doing 10x as many tests as we were in August.

There's absolutely no doubt this is real. Nobody is saying it's yet as bad as the first wave, although given hospitlisation data, it may meet that very soon in Liverpool, and unless action is taken, there's every reason to believe the rest of the country will follow suit, as numbers are rising pretty much everywhere now.
the 10 times example was used to prove a point. If the scenario I described was reported it would run with the headlines "number of cases have risen 10 times compared to March", instead of the sensible headline which would state that the number of cases have not risen compared to the number of tests run.
 
Well there are increases since gyms opened ,thats a fact, whether it's caused by gyms opening I wouldn't know but neither would you.

Stop being pedantic gyms opened in July and there were no increases for weeks. You knew exactly what I meant so why waste yours and mine energy with such a shit post.
 
Can I suggest those who think the doctors today were just spinning a propaganda yarn go back and read my reports on the hospital data. You will find them in here every evening around 5 pm or so for weeks back now.

I do not work for the government or have any axe to grind. I have been in lockdown for months by choice and badly want this to be over. I am not interested in propaganda and denounce it when I see it (and it is out there unquestionably).

But the numbers I post on hospital patient increases, the numbers going on ventilators and how many of the deaths are in the NW each day are not fiction or deception. They are facts anyone can access.

I do and post them here day by day so you can decide for yourself.

But to do that you need to be able to face the numbers head on and not deny what they say because what they say is not comfortable.

Nobody is comfortable with what is happening but things will only get better if we face facts, deal with them and help one another through to when this will all be over.

Everyone wanting to be selfish just delays that day. They do not accelerate normality returning by whistling with fingers in ears or supposing some cabal in secret is trying to wreck our economy.

No government would be THAT stupid. Not even this one.
 
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