2020 US Elections

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Prestwich_Blue said:
Am I the only one who thinks that Trump maybe has a point about mail-in ballots? Surely, like here, if they've not been received by election day then they shouldn't count. And they should be counted on the night.
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But he has taken tons of mailboxes out of dem states to hold them up and make it harder for them, seems this may have backfired a bit
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The mind plays tricks and sometimes we are all guilty of seeing what we want to see and perceiving things because we desire them. It’s why most City fans think Laporte is better than Van Dyke; and with Liverpool fans vice versa.

And in saying what I’m about to say I’m conscious that I’ll inviting a degree of ridicule, but I’ve looked at the polls, and tried to read the mood music in the US, and attempted to weigh 2016 into the calculation, and considered the likely significance of the levels of postal voting and the overall turnout (which is going to be high) and I believe that Trump is going to get soundly beaten.

Maybe not quite Walter Mondale in ‘84, but around 200 electoral college votes is my prediction.
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I very much hope you’re right.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Am I the only one who thinks that Trump maybe has a point about mail-in ballots? Surely, like here, if they've not been received by election day then they shouldn't count. And they should be counted on the night.
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You're not the only one, but this is worth a read:

www.npr.org

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims That Votes Shouldn't Be Counted After Election Day

"I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers," Trump said. But the vote totals are never fully counted the same day.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

I'd add -- the last time you voted, how many issues/offices did you vote on? Last week I voted on 28 (ten candidates and 18 propositions/measures to study). Trump's comments on "you could have voted a month ago" are stupid. I couldn't have. Also, we have six hours of time zone differences in this country. Polls close at 7 or 8 pm local time. States have forever run elections differently. Just California counts probably near as many ballots as the entire UK (I'm guessing). I don't know if you have mail-in voting over there; here, it's different for each state. Like with my taxes, I can't control the mail, so if they're postmarked in time, they count as on time, not when they're received by the IRS or Franchise Tax Board. Obviously COVID changes processes that allow for maximum access to the ability to vote this year in particular.
 
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adrianr said:
Wherever I just saw Trump speaking he started talking about how it needs to be decided on the night because the whole world is waiting and that 'bad things' happen to ballots if it goes on too long. Bad things like what, counting them?
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Bad for him if they do
I think that’s what he means.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Am I the only one who thinks that Trump maybe has a point about mail-in ballots? Surely, like here, if they've not been received by election day then they shouldn't count. And they should be counted on the night.
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Probably not the only one.
But if the Post Office is deliberately delaying deliveries then it would be rather unfair for people who posted their ballots in plenty of time.
 
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