Media Thread 2020/21

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Mike Cledford said:
If a politician had done exactly the same as Rashford he would get hammered for his hypocrisy.
Unfortunately our media makes them and then breaks them in many fields.
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Rashford did nothing wrong investing a small percentage of his current income for his future, especially when he will be retired at 35 & unlikely to be able to earn anywhere near what he can now.

If a politician was criticised for doing the same then again that’s the media finding an angle to attack. I’m certain there will be politicians with a pension / investment fund to the tune of 2m.

As I’m sure our Vinny has investments similar to Rashford & that shouldn’t detract from the great work he did on a charitable front, of course he never got the praise that MR did but again that’s the shitty media & not the individual.
 
Mike Cledford said:
If your post had a subject or even a personal pronoun l would know what you are talking about.
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For that particular poster to accuse anyone of falling for any form of media spin is completely laughable.

He is an attention seeking troll/WUM who stalks every post on this thread, best to ignore him and hopefully he will go away.
 
cheekybids said:
Rashford did nothing wrong investing a small percentage of his current income for his future, especially when he will be retired at 35 & unlikely to be able to earn anywhere near what he can now.

If a politician was criticised for doing the same then again that’s the media finding an angle to attack. I’m certain there will be politicians with a pension / investment fund to the tune of 2m.

As I’m sure our Vinny has investments similar to Rashford & that shouldn’t detract from the great work he did on a charitable front, of course he never got the praise that MR did but again that’s the shitty media & not the individual.
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Dont forget the role played by United PR.
I am sure Rashford will be grateful for your sympathy when he is counting his 100 million at the age of 35.
And please do not try to compare him with Vincent Kompany.
 
Mike Cledford said:
If your post had a subject or even a personal pronoun l would know what you are talking about.
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I think you know what I am talking about. You seem desperate to downplay the achievements of a young man who has invested his time and his money supporting a charity and elevating it to the national consciousness.

This stance has led to you quoting a Daily Mail report, to paint him as a hypocrite because he has also invested money into property ventures.

If you think the media reporting of his role in this is exaggerated, disproportionate to his role that is another argument, but to criticise him based on his property portfolio seems a tad unfair.
 
Mike Cledford said:
Dont forget the role played by United PR.
I am sure Rashford will be grateful for your sympathy when he is counting his 100 million at the age of 35.
And please do not try to compare him with Vincent Kompany.
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I am absolutely certain the Rag spin merchants have turned it to their advantage, Rashford will know this as well, that’s why he’s pushed it knowing it will get full backing.

I had a very fortunate childhood, one of my best mates had a single mum who was an alcoholic & putting food on the table wasn’t a concern. Going to school was all about being fed for him & his sister & as a 50 year old man who has never taken a penny from the state & has 2 successful daughters hes never forgotten those days as it’s clear Rashford hasn’t.

Footballers were unfairly criticised for not doing enough when a fair few do more than most, particularly Raz & Vinny.
 
SilvaisSkyBlue said:
For that particular poster to accuse anyone of falling for any form of media spin is completely laughable.

He is an attention seeking troll/WUM who stalks every post on this thread, best to ignore him and hopefully he will go away.
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franksinatra said:
I think you know what I am talking about. You seem desperate to downplay the achievements of a young man who has invested his time and his money supporting a charity and elevating it to the national consciousness.

This stance has led to you quoting a Daily Mail report, to paint him as a hypocrite because he has also invested money into property ventures.

If you think the media reporting of his role in this is exaggerated, disproportionate to his role that is another argument, but to criticise him based on his property portfolio seems a tad unfair.
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Ok we disagree. I have not read the mail article. I read the tweet from MR and it seemed to be like that of a politician or any rich man who had been 'caught out'.
If you wish to discuss this you can always pm me for a civilised exchange of views.
 
Mike Cledford said:
Ok we disagree. I have not read the mail article. I read the tweet from MR and it seemed to be like that of a politician or any rich man who had been 'caught out'.
If you wish to discuss this you can always pm me for a civilised exchange of views.
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Anyone whose heard Marcus speak knows that he doesn't write his own Tweets. His PR team are on it.
 
cookster said:
Anyone whose heard Marcus speak knows that he doesn't write his own Tweets. His PR team are on it.
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Same for that original letter to Boris on the headed note paper that nobody seems able to name. It was almost all in social worker-speak. The volunteer who signed him up deserves a lot of praise. All volunteers do.
 
Mike Cledford said:
Ok we disagree. I have not read the mail article. I read the tweet from MR and it seemed to be like that of a politician or any rich man who had been 'caught out'.
If you wish to discuss this you can always pm me for a civilised exchange of views.
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Mike Cledford said:
Ok we disagree. I have not read the mail article. I read the tweet from MR and it seemed to be like that of a politician or any rich man who had been 'caught out'.
If you wish to discuss this you can always pm me for a civilised exchange of views.
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I am not sure where you think I have been uncivilised, but I do I do think you fell for the spin, which I initially posted, which your half admitting you did based on the how the tweet was framed.

If you want clarification, yes feel free to PM me.
 
franksinatra said:
I am not sure where you think I have been uncivilised, but I do I do think you fell for the spin, which I initially posted, which your half admitting you did based on the how the tweet was framed.

If you want clarification, yes feel free to PM me.
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I thought this had gone to bed like me. I did not say you were uncivilised but there was a danger the thread getting a bit histrionic largely caused by you with your incomplete sentence. I haven't read the mail article so l didnt think you meant me. Others seemed to be getting confused too judging by quotes and 'likes'. Read them back objectively and you will see what l mean.
I never half admit anything. My reasons for not reading the mail are not the virtue signalling one sees on here but because l do not want to be exposed to even more crap with the cookies system which has proliferated.
It was the Liverpool Echo which took me to a Mirror article which had MRs 'maid protesting too much' tweet in which he mentioned the mail.
I disliked the hypocrisy of a rich young man going on about how tax payers money at the same time as he is investing serious amounts on his own future. Like all these people he should have mentioned it before it was found out or he ends up looking like Cummings and his eye tests.
I am quite happy to clarify my views tomorrow in pm if you like. I expect that you have been asleep since 9pm like everyone else in Bouncing Bournemouth. ;)
 
Mike Cledford said:
I thought this had gone to bed like me. I did not say you were uncivilised but there was a danger the thread getting a bit histrionic largely caused by you with your incomplete sentence. I haven't read the mail article so l didnt think you meant me. Others seemed to be getting confused too judging by quotes and 'likes'. Read them back objectively and you will see what l mean.
I never half admit anything. My reasons for not reading the mail are not the virtue signalling one sees on here but because l do not want to be exposed to even more crap with the cookies system which has proliferated.
It was the Liverpool Echo which took me to a Mirror article which had MRs 'maid protesting too much' tweet in which he mentioned the mail.
I disliked the hypocrisy of a rich young man going on about how tax payers money at the same time as he is investing serious amounts on his own future. Like all these people he should have mentioned it before it was found out or he ends up looking like Cummings and his eye tests.
I am quite happy to clarify my views tomorrow in pm if you like. I expect that you have been asleep since 9pm like everyone else in Bouncing Bournemouth. ;)
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what should a rich man invest in for his future which is ok by you?

surely you don’t expect him to keep it current account.
 
cheekybids said:
what should a rich man invest in for his future which is ok by you?

surely you don’t expect him to keep it current account.
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I am not rich but l do have standing orders to charities and when shopping specifically buy the sort of items food banks want. Not a fortune but its my own donation and perhaps more than my favourite hypocrite does from his own pocket.
 
I think Rashford is OK for a red.
It’s not his personal responsibility to feed every child or to spend all of his money doing so.
The fact he used his personal profile to shame far right monsters into belatedly doing the right thing is surely a cause for celebration, whatever badge he wears on a weekend.
But gammons gonna gammon, whatever
 
Mike Cledford said:
I thought this had gone to bed like me. I did not say you were uncivilised but there was a danger the thread getting a bit histrionic largely caused by you with your incomplete sentence. I haven't read the mail article so l didnt think you meant me. Others seemed to be getting confused too judging by quotes and 'likes'. Read them back objectively and you will see what l mean.
I never half admit anything. My reasons for not reading the mail are not the virtue signalling one sees on here but because l do not want to be exposed to even more crap with the cookies system which has proliferated.
It was the Liverpool Echo which took me to a Mirror article which had MRs 'maid protesting too much' tweet in which he mentioned the mail.
I disliked the hypocrisy of a rich young man going on about how tax payers money at the same time as he is investing serious amounts on his own future. Like all these people he should have mentioned it before it was found out or he ends up looking like Cummings and his eye tests.
I am quite happy to clarify my views tomorrow in pm if you like. I expect that you have been asleep since 9pm like everyone else in Bouncing Bournemouth. ;)
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I must admit I am at a loss to see why you would think my ‘incomplete sentence’ is at risk of causing histrionics, but its a side issue anyway so not worth worrying about.

I dont think we will agree on this one, or even on the nightlife in Bournemouth :-), but that is fine as it goes with the territory of posting on a forum, some handle it better than others.

Personally, as a tax payer, I think Marcus Rashford has every reason to comment on Government spending even if at the same time he is investing in his families future. Its not unique to him and even our very own Vincent Kompany has been investing in property while highlighting issues in relation to homelessness. To suggest the two cannot be done simultaneously only removes powerful voices, which rightly or wrongly are more likely to impact change. I would much prefer sportsmen to speak up on issues which benefit society.
 
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